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I agree with Saturnine. I've stopped labelling myself as goth as such. Firstly because yeah, the "hardcore kids" would kick my ass so bad for giving them a bad name, and also because wearing the label "goth" always leads to people jumping to conclusions that I'm going to fit their dictionary defenition steriotype of goth. Can't you just simply exist as who you are and not care about fitting in. Sure, being goth is usually meant to be because you don't *want* to fit in, but you're just fitting in with all the other people who are "unique-- just like everyone else." And "Empty Purple Stars", if you really do conform to the bunch of people who state they don't conform to all these steriotypes you posted, how can you say "I've been goth for X amount of years"? What you're saying is that it's not an attribute, but a way of life, and being. And so you can't really pin it down to a date when you "turned goth." And being goth is different things to different people! I'm sure there are people who don't conform to your "Goth With A Sledgehammer" checklist who could be described as goth. And if these "skin-goths" take delight in calling themselves goth, then let them be! It's none of you're fucking business! If they're so insignifigant to you, then why are you big-noting the posers? They're only posing if they're being something they're not.
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