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Darkbender423 · 10-03-2006, 08:54 PM

Splintered--

First I must give you my sincere appology for the cutter remark. I got a little exasperated by the whole thing. I am sorry for that.

You are right about the world being in a constant state of war. It comes at us from all sides. And I can understand what you mean by people being afraid of asking for help. Therapy rarely helps and people who have those types of thoughts do often end up in institutions. Murder is a part of the natural world, it is just sad that this is how the world is and that these are the types of actions that some feel they must resort to in order to bring themselves to satisfaction. I don't think this guy was at war with society as much as with his own mind and the demons of his past that he could not control. I understand the points you have made here and I will concede to some of them. My 'who gives a fuck" comment was simply to point out that we all have issues and that those issues do not justify the murder of innocent children or anyone else for that matter. Civilazation is not so civilized sometimes.I don't condone war and I don't condone murder and you are right that that is the way it is. I just think it is a sad state of affairs and it sucks that our world has to be that way. I guess as a parent it is difficult to accept that these things have to happen in our society. Hopefully someday we will evolve beyond the pettiness of self and live with more tolerence for one another.

I understand that not everyone's mind works the same way and that people have the right to express their emotions how they will. But as a society we have laws to protect the lives of others,that is the reason we should try to stop them. What about the right of the child who doesn't want to die? Honestly, I don't feel that we can justify war. As for protecting yourself, if it is in your power to do so it is only a natural reaction of the flight or fight reflex. If your life is in danger you would do what is necessary to protect that life. I know that I would put my life on the line to protect the life of any one of you if I truely thought that I could protect you from being killed and I don't know any of you.

I will agree that the state of the theraputical world is lacking but if a person truely wants help for their suffering then there are some resorces out there to truely help them. They may be difficult to find but they are there. The most difficult part for most is bringing themselves to seek it out. I don't think a lot of people will humble themselves enough to do so, it is difficult and the drugs are like putting a band aid on a gushing artery. You are right about that as well. There are however some truely compassionate people out there who will honestly try to help others. However they are few and far between. One doesn't know the help they will recieve until they look for it and open up to it. It is as much a personal choice as picking up a gun and killing. Either a person will open up to it or they won't.

I cannot say why people like this do the things they do, I don't understand it and I don't have an answer to solve the problems of the suffering. There is a lot of suffering out there and unfortunately there is no end in sight. I appologize if I came off as a bit of a dick about the whole thing.

10-03-2006, 08:54 PM	#16
Darkbender423 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sarasota Florida Posts: 120	Splintered-- First I must give you my sincere appology for the cutter remark. I got a little exasperated by the whole thing. I am sorry for that. You are right about the world being in a constant state of war. It comes at us from all sides. And I can understand what you mean by people being afraid of asking for help. Therapy rarely helps and people who have those types of thoughts do often end up in institutions. Murder is a part of the natural world, it is just sad that this is how the world is and that these are the types of actions that some feel they must resort to in order to bring themselves to satisfaction. I don't think this guy was at war with society as much as with his own mind and the demons of his past that he could not control. I understand the points you have made here and I will concede to some of them. My 'who gives a fuck" comment was simply to point out that we all have issues and that those issues do not justify the murder of innocent children or anyone else for that matter. Civilazation is not so civilized sometimes.I don't condone war and I don't condone murder and you are right that that is the way it is. I just think it is a sad state of affairs and it sucks that our world has to be that way. I guess as a parent it is difficult to accept that these things have to happen in our society. Hopefully someday we will evolve beyond the pettiness of self and live with more tolerence for one another. I understand that not everyone's mind works the same way and that people have the right to express their emotions how they will. But as a society we have laws to protect the lives of others,that is the reason we should try to stop them. What about the right of the child who doesn't want to die? Honestly, I don't feel that we can justify war. As for protecting yourself, if it is in your power to do so it is only a natural reaction of the flight or fight reflex. If your life is in danger you would do what is necessary to protect that life. I know that I would put my life on the line to protect the life of any one of you if I truely thought that I could protect you from being killed and I don't know any of you. I will agree that the state of the theraputical world is lacking but if a person truely wants help for their suffering then there are some resorces out there to truely help them. They may be difficult to find but they are there. The most difficult part for most is bringing themselves to seek it out. I don't think a lot of people will humble themselves enough to do so, it is difficult and the drugs are like putting a band aid on a gushing artery. You are right about that as well. There are however some truely compassionate people out there who will honestly try to help others. However they are few and far between. One doesn't know the help they will recieve until they look for it and open up to it. It is as much a personal choice as picking up a gun and killing. Either a person will open up to it or they won't. I cannot say why people like this do the things they do, I don't understand it and I don't have an answer to solve the problems of the suffering. There is a lot of suffering out there and unfortunately there is no end in sight. I appologize if I came off as a bit of a dick about the whole thing.