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Old 02-16-2007, 07:58 PM   #135
Drake Dun
 
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Originally Posted by Vyusher
And we know that is normality, a nigh-100 percent chance of occurance under the right conditions, from the laws. Still, the chance cannot be said to be 100%, as we have not viewed the totality of space, and I would imagine some exception has occured even in our minour scope.
I'm not clear on what you're talking about here. Life, and a planet capable of supporting it but not having it? Do we really know how likely life is? We certainly do not have a statistical sample, so I can't see how we could do more than speculate.

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So you compute the single-die universal formation. Then the single-die rolls of the four forces being created and working the way they do.
We can't compute them, though. For all we know, they had to be that way, for reasons we will later discover.

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Then the multi-die, range-based rolls for planets which all have to end up with the 99.et ceteras probability.
Again... I am not sure what you are talking about. 99 point something percent probability of what?

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Untrue. There are plenty of reasons somebody could find. Plans for expansion, for instance.
Well, thanks to the unbelievably huge distances he put between between everything we haven't even managed to get people to the nearest other planet yet (Mars, minimum distance from Earth about 55 million kilometers), and it will be a very long time indeed before we make it to the nearest star (Alpha Centauri - about 744,555 times as distant as Mars). Why all that useless space between here and there? Why all the Hubble expansion, which (if I understand it correctly) should make it impossible even in principle for us to get to all those places?

It's possible to come up with a reason, of course. More to the point, it is possible to come up with any number of reasons. There are always plenty of reasons once we have assumed a being which is (1) infinitely powerful and (2) utterly beyond our comprehension.

1) He wanted us to have room to expand without running into any of the other species he made on other planets. Our destiny is not tied to theirs, which is why they don't show up in the Bible.

2) He just liked the aesthetics of the universe that way. The way we think the daibutsu in Nara is cool because it is big, God likes big stuff too. Only for God, big means BIG.

3) For reasons having to do with physics that we haven't stumbled upon yet, all of that stuff out there is actually necessary to keep things in balance here so that we can continue to exist.

4) To impress us with our uniqueness and therefore our importance.

5) He was so high. Seriously, man, that was some good shit.

6) Every solar system has exactly one planet which is destined to grow its own type of life. The other planets are there to give them a nice round solar system with interesting stuff to do.

It's entertaining to come up with these, but the fact that it is really easy to do so and none of them are testable should make us value them less, not more, as scientific insights.

Drake
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