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Originally Posted by Saddiction
I tend to disagree. How is it that recent industrial TRIES to be closer to goth attire, looks, and themes? What bands do you consider to be recent industrial?
Your statment is confusing. In one breath you state that recent industrial is trying to be like goth, when in another breath you state that old school industrial was more like goth. In theory, if recent bands were built off of the old school bands, how could they be 'trying'?
The aesthetics of industrial are clearly different from that of goth. It is a darker genre of music, like goth, but that doesn't mean its trying to be goth. Believe it or not, goth isn't the only genre with darker undertones.
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Guess you're right. Though when I said recent Industrial, I actually meant the mainstream works that are considered Industrial 'rock' or 'metal': Manson, Rob Zombie, Nine Inch Nails (recent work). Old school Industrial bands were without intention, alongside with goth bands like Specimen. So it was not their intention to be alongside with gothic rock, that's how it occured.
Goth, most definatley, is not the only style with dark overtones, though with the current bands like Manson, Rob Zombie (he has labeled Industrial), Mindless Self Indulgence have an image that looks goth without Industrial's dark overtones were bands, who have no real connection with goth culture, I was referring to. But please don't get me wrong, I love Industrial, like Ministry, I was only giving my opinion on Industrial's current relationship with goth and comparing it to how it was in the eighties. I apologize for not being specific.
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