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Originally Posted by LadyStardust
I'm still not convinced that we should hold Manson responsible for what his fans do.
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Of course we shouldn't explicitly, but to the charge of promoting himself as Goth to a gullible media, I think he bears some responsibility.
Not to mention that his shock rock tactics ushered in huge waves of harassment and harm to actual goths. Whether he had control over the harassers at the time it was happening or not is irrelevant. He tried as hard as he could to make himself loathed by mainstream America, and tagged himself with the word Goth. I think the inevitable backlash was not only easily predictable, but also something he was trying to generate. So yes, he does have some responsibility somewhere.
I would argue against it being satire, because if it were so, then at least some people would get the joke. Even Andy Kaufmann, with his bizarre humor styling, did satire correctly. If Manson's image is satire, it is perhaps the worst attempt at it in entertainment history.