[WolfMoon]

Originally Posted by illuminatti

Well, Manson isn't trying to be goth. He is just himself - an individuality...an idiot, but original never the less.
And as far as i remember, the only answer i got to my question "then what do you think is goth ?" was "an individuality". And that seems to be the only caracteristic you people could give me. Now don't get all wound up, i am not starting my stereotypes thing again.

I myself am very interested in sociological studies of what is goth and i was surprised to see people basicly tell me that every motherfucker that is different from the rest is gothic. i am not trying to be rude. What i am is just pissed off. I am a goth and i find it damn offencive... How can you call yourself belonging to a particular style and not be able to give any characteristics of it?...Oh, but there go my stereotypes again. I'll just drop that. No point in trying to get a reasonable answer in that department.

Goth is, indeed about being an individual, something Manson is not. I'm terribly sorry to be the one to break it to you, but he's not. I mean how many people have done covers of Tainted Love? Far too many! As a matter of fact he seems to do cover songs merely to boost his record sales, not out of any true respect for the original artist or love of the original song. How many more covers is he going to do?

I also think it's funny how sooooo many people thought his 'Dope Show' video was so original! What an original concept, that the record company/manager wants to drug you up and put you on stage to make money for them. After all, no one before ever thought of that! Not even Pink Floyd or Queen or Ozzy!

And his make-up certainly never reminds me of Nik Fiend.

Manson is not original and he's certainly not goth!