[Chazz]

Well I just read that other topic and read this..





Spooky kids, Kindergoths, Mansonites, Mallgoths...these pre-teen or early-teen types are known by many names, most of which are derogatory. They are often regarded with scorn and contempt by older members of the Goth community. Their crimes? Generally, not being old enough to remember the 80s, not being rich enough to afford a “proper Goth” wardrobe, and not being wise enough to know the “right” music to listen to or the “right” amount of make-up to wear.

It is true that, while Baby Bats often consider themselves “Goth,” they show quite a number of differences from members of the original scene; they tend to show a preference for metal (Marylin Manson and HIM being typical “Baby Bat” music), wear clothes that reflect metal/skater fashion, and tend to go for a “shocking” rather than “aesthetic” appearance.

As the older Goths are painfully aware, the media also considers these kids to be “Goth.” While this can be annoying for Goths who do not want to be associated with the Baby Bats (particularly the ones who are in it for shock value), one must remember that it was the media in the first place who popularised the term “Goth” to decribe the original music scene. So how we define what is and what is not Goth is very difficult these days.

Very frequently, Baby Bats will start to grow more “sophisticated” in their clothes and music tastes, and become some of the most passionate members of the Goth community. For this reason too, they are to be respected, not shunned.






And it made me think.. Do you think I am one? Heres a short description of me..

I actually can afford a good gothic wardrobe.

I do not like Marilyn manson, I think he is a cunt, and I don't really liek HIM.. Only if im drunk or so tired I can't think straight.

I was brought up with a dad who was all for the 80's so I know a lot of the decade. Although I hate him more than words can describe and he is now dead..

I do not say that I am goth, but I do slightly consider myself goth..

I barely ever wear make up, and if I do, it is two slight line down the end of each eye only around 1 cm and some white makeup if im feeling like it.

I used to skate but I do not dress in a skater style.. I do wear jeans and just a black shirt and wristbands, when I'm in the more country parts of my town, as my cool stuff has chav attracting effects, but if im not in my town I will wear it anywhere else I want..

So trench coat, band T shirt, plain black trousers and a pair of new rock boots.

I wear rings, and a spiked bracelet which you can't really see as it is hidden by my trench coat. I also wear a pretty cool necklace which is nothing huge but it's a small cross with a strange bent fashion with a black gem in the centre.

Well that about sums up *me*

I forgot to add that I am 13 and have been at this for around 2-3 years.. He..

Anyway. Some responces would be nice as after reading that and recieving some minor critisism from some ass holes in my school it would be great to get a response..

I also wanted to know if you think that wearing black lipstick is a bad idea because I have once or twice but thats it.. Anyway.. Thanks for reading all that and thanks again for your responces.