[Jesus Ben Shaitan]

Originally Posted by d.Nox

I, for one, think you're full of shit.

Point 1: "Ben" means "son of." It's not a title, nor a name.

Point 2: Since when do mormons "preach the word of God in church"? They have a lay priesthood, and unless you live in a very small ward, you'll be called on to speak a few times a year at most. I was mormon for twenty years; I should know.

Point 3: As I'm sure a few others will point out, Black Sabbath, Ozzy, and Manson have nothing to do with goth, and hence nothing to do with this site, as you seem to imply.

It seems to me--correct me if I'm wrong--that you're more interested in shock value than in substance. I hope I'm wrong, and you're just confused.

But anyway, welcome.

your right is does mean son of. but it is also a name and a title. Manson is a mix of goth, metal, new age, and alternative.