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ExistentialDisorder · 09-24-2005, 07:06 PM

My two cents...

I've never been a fan of rap music lyrically, commonly referred to as hip-hop, since the term rap is rather dated now. But it is still music. I do enjoy the rythms tho. The problem I see with rap/hip-hop artists is that they often copy each other, from their songs to their videos. One of them will come up with a catchy beat and it becomes a #1 hit and then you hear that same beat in every other rap single for the next six months until somebody else hits on a beat that everyone likes and then that one gets repeated for the next six months and so on. Same with their videos. They'll film it a certain way, using some kind of unique camera angle or lighting, etc, and everybody else follows doing the same thing. Then there's the 'art' of rehashing old tunes from way back that were hits in like 1985 and suddenly rap/hip-hop artists put it in their recordings. How many Eminem tracks use music ranging from the cure to martika (remember her?) to michael jackson? My problem with the whole scene is that there's very little originality.

BUT!!! I do like the music - and I'm talking about original hip-hop beats, not the rehashed junk - if there was just some way of muting the lyrical content. Not all hip-hop is rap tho. I dated a hip-hop/break-beat dj for a short time and was enlightened to the fact that there is some very good hip-hop music out there that has very little if any, to do with rap. And there are more and more bands that would largely be considered rock, industrial, metal, goth, etc, that are incorporating hip-hop and breakbeat into their music. Which I personally think kicks ass. They're not rapping, but their music is being influenced by it more and more.

Which brings me to the concept of what is Korn and bands like them. Korn has been around for several years now and their earlier stuff was pretty much all hard rock/metal. Their more recent (and i.m.o. better) material has incorporated a more hip-hop flavor. But even as far back as A.D.I.D.A.S., you could sense that flavor in their style. I'm thinking that generally speaking they'd be classed into what's being called NuMetal.

I'm also a fan of Linkin Park, and who knows what the hell they are. I don't even think they know. Sometimes they're hip-hop sometimes they're rock. I don't think I'd quite call their rock industrial, but it does have a sense of it here and there. Same with Evanescence. Even M. Manson and NIN have been incorporating hip-hop beats into their music. And yes, I definately consider Manson very much goth. Not olskool goth by any means (i.e. the cure, joy division, bauhaus, etc), but lets say modern gothic.

Okay enough of my rant for now. I'm still new here.

~E.D.

09-24-2005, 07:06 PM	#32
ExistentialDisorder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, S.C. (USA) Posts: 363	My two cents... I've never been a fan of rap music lyrically, commonly referred to as hip-hop, since the term rap is rather dated now. But it is still music. I do enjoy the rythms tho. The problem I see with rap/hip-hop artists is that they often copy each other, from their songs to their videos. One of them will come up with a catchy beat and it becomes a #1 hit and then you hear that same beat in every other rap single for the next six months until somebody else hits on a beat that everyone likes and then that one gets repeated for the next six months and so on. Same with their videos. They'll film it a certain way, using some kind of unique camera angle or lighting, etc, and everybody else follows doing the same thing. Then there's the 'art' of rehashing old tunes from way back that were hits in like 1985 and suddenly rap/hip-hop artists put it in their recordings. How many Eminem tracks use music ranging from the cure to martika (remember her?) to michael jackson? My problem with the whole scene is that there's very little originality. BUT!!! I do like the music - and I'm talking about original hip-hop beats, not the rehashed junk - if there was just some way of muting the lyrical content. Not all hip-hop is rap tho. I dated a hip-hop/break-beat dj for a short time and was enlightened to the fact that there is some very good hip-hop music out there that has very little if any, to do with rap. And there are more and more bands that would largely be considered rock, industrial, metal, goth, etc, that are incorporating hip-hop and breakbeat into their music. Which I personally think kicks ass. They're not rapping, but their music is being influenced by it more and more. Which brings me to the concept of what is Korn and bands like them. Korn has been around for several years now and their earlier stuff was pretty much all hard rock/metal. Their more recent (and i.m.o. better) material has incorporated a more hip-hop flavor. But even as far back as A.D.I.D.A.S., you could sense that flavor in their style. I'm thinking that generally speaking they'd be classed into what's being called NuMetal. I'm also a fan of Linkin Park, and who knows what the hell they are. I don't even think they know. Sometimes they're hip-hop sometimes they're rock. I don't think I'd quite call their rock industrial, but it does have a sense of it here and there. Same with Evanescence. Even M. Manson and NIN have been incorporating hip-hop beats into their music. And yes, I definately consider Manson very much goth. Not olskool goth by any means (i.e. the cure, joy division, bauhaus, etc), but lets say modern gothic. Okay enough of my rant for now. I'm still new here. ~E.D.