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ZombieG · 05-09-2008, 03:22 PM

(Yeah yeah, it's technically not whining, but it's for my personal information and worthless outside of that, so I guess worthless posts would fit here. Anyway.)

I joined this board with the intent of trolling. However, after reading on for a little while, I just ended up getting curious. Yeah, I'm a pretty ineffective troll, blah blah, but either way, I just want to have a couple of things cleared up.

Immediately, I just want to know. What exactly do you all consider the criteria that needs to be met in order to be determined "Goth"? For instance, if x person doesn't dress in black, but is the practical reincarnation of Zdzislaw Beksinski, are they any less Goth? What if said person prefers Mozart to Paganini? (Or, I guess 311 to Joy Division...?) Exactly how loose is the "culture" people claim Goth is; is it more of a mentality or image to keep up?

Secondly, this isn't really pertinent to this board, as thankfully I haven't read about any gigantic distress and hatred for "Preps." I'd just really like an explanation, because nearly every Gothic person I've ever met has multiple tales of being berated, yet the vast majority of people I meet that calls themselves "Gothic" has an almost unfathomable hatred for people just because they dress a certain way, or date a cheerleader, etc. So, can someone explain to me exactly how this process works: they shouldn't hate me for being different, but fuck do I hate those American Eagle-wearing faggots!

Lastly (At least as far as I can currently remember), probably my biggest problem: if you claim to be a Gothic person, why piss and moan about being a Gothic person? It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure out the stigma associated with them (Especially in high school, though I still purport that it shouldn't count, as everyone hates everyone in high school). If different people have always faced being ostracized, and apparently being Gothic is just "being different with black and Combichrist," where exactly is the disconnect?

I'm not really trying to be condescending or accusing at all, I'm genuinely interested in feedback. Though, you probably could've guessed that I don't consider myself a Goth at all. I'm a geek, we don't have enough fashion sense for mix-and-black clothing, I guess? You Gothic women are all so sexy, though.

But yeah. Responses would be appreciated.

05-09-2008, 03:22 PM	#1
ZombieG Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 99	General Questions (Yeah yeah, it's technically not whining, but it's for my personal information and worthless outside of that, so I guess worthless posts would fit here. Anyway.) I joined this board with the intent of trolling. However, after reading on for a little while, I just ended up getting curious. Yeah, I'm a pretty ineffective troll, blah blah, but either way, I just want to have a couple of things cleared up. Immediately, I just want to know. What exactly do you all consider the criteria that needs to be met in order to be determined "Goth"? For instance, if x person doesn't dress in black, but is the practical reincarnation of Zdzislaw Beksinski, are they any less Goth? What if said person prefers Mozart to Paganini? (Or, I guess 311 to Joy Division...?) Exactly how loose is the "culture" people claim Goth is; is it more of a mentality or image to keep up? Secondly, this isn't really pertinent to this board, as thankfully I haven't read about any gigantic distress and hatred for "Preps." I'd just really like an explanation, because nearly every Gothic person I've ever met has multiple tales of being berated, yet the vast majority of people I meet that calls themselves "Gothic" has an almost unfathomable hatred for people just because they dress a certain way, or date a cheerleader, etc. So, can someone explain to me exactly how this process works: they shouldn't hate me for being different, but fuck do I hate those American Eagle-wearing faggots! Lastly (At least as far as I can currently remember), probably my biggest problem: if you claim to be a Gothic person, why piss and moan about being a Gothic person? It doesn't really take a rocket scientist to figure out the stigma associated with them (Especially in high school, though I still purport that it shouldn't count, as everyone hates everyone in high school). If different people have always faced being ostracized, and apparently being Gothic is just "being different with black and Combichrist," where exactly is the disconnect? I'm not really trying to be condescending or accusing at all, I'm genuinely interested in feedback. Though, you probably could've guessed that I don't consider myself a Goth at all. I'm a geek, we don't have enough fashion sense for mix-and-black clothing, I guess? You Gothic women are all so sexy, though. But yeah. Responses would be appreciated.