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my opinion on this rises not from an opinion that they are talentless (i would be lying if I said they were) but from the fact that they have taken something new, interesting, good and truely innovative (ie Black Metal) and bastardised it with pretty much every cliche in the book, allong with the very one of the very things that the Black Metal Movement veheomently opposes, Style over substance both lyricly (do not tell me they're deep, he just uses a thesaurus) and visualy (ie 'Trend').
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