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Exactly my point. It's hard to say you want to win a war that should never have been started, which is why I held my nose and voted for John Kerry, but at least he put forth a vision of "winning" in Iraq that appeared to have Iraqis in mind. He would have brought a larger coalition together to give it an international face rather than the UK/US and some scattered friends ("Don't forget Poland"--no offense to Poland, of which I am one quarter Polish). He would be training Iraqis outside the country in places like Germany where they could train without fear of getting blown up every day.
Now, I'll state again just for clarity: I was against this war. I would have chosen a Kucinich or a Dean for the presidency. But the fact is, the war was begun against the will of many of us, and at least Kerry would have given us a vision of what "winning" would look like and follow through with it.
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