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Originally Posted by Wormboy
Actually, you're wrong. While they're not gothic rock, they're most certainly goth. If you look up their lyrics, most of them are about lost love and death. In fact Her Ghost in the Fog is a song about the love of his life being murdered, love and death, pretty goth.
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Jay-Z sings about love and death. Maybe we should call him goth as well.
Maybe we should call
Pagliacci goth, it's all about love and death AND most everyone in it has white make-up on their face and most wear all black.
It has nothing to do with lyrics, but genre, musical and otherwise. CoF is not part of the genre. They don't do tours to goth venues. They don't tour with gothic bands. You won't find them in the goth section of your local record shoppe. They aren't on a goth label. If you Google them or find them on MySpace or Last.FM, they don't even claim to be goth or list any goth artists as influences. They don't sound anything like the music played at the various goth nights around the world, which at the end of the day, is the real deciding factor.
So no, they aren't goth.
If you wonder why I post such angry replies it's because this is a personal pet peeve of mine.
When jo-bob fuck stick from east pig fuck arkansas sees a new CoF/Manson/My Chemical Romance video and decides thats what 'goth' is, and then go to their local mall to buy crap from Hot Topic and show up here talking trash, it bothers me.
It's like the white kids who hear Ice-Cube, then buy baggy jeans, turn their hat around, start speaking in broken english and using words like 'baby-daddy', 'werd', except on our scene.
I'm all for newbies showing up here and taking in the culture and supporting the scene, but don't come in here acting like you know whats what and post shite threads about 'My Chemical Romance' or start polls about which Crow film was the best.
It bugs me to think that these people take a whole genre, a lifestyle if you will, and condense it down to a mass marketed western media bought and sold commercially produced image designed to sell product, which is the exact opposite of who we are and what we are about.
So yeah, personal pet peeve.