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Old 09-14-2008, 12:25 PM   #125
Godslayer Jillian
 
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Man, I went to a Christian school too, and all they taught me was bullshit.
And it's evident because of all your misconceptions.
Now, you might not believe me and think I'm just trying to insult you, but I have actually studied both "theories" enough to know why creationism isn't one. The fact that you say what you're saying leads me to believe that you really don't know what you're talking about, as evidenced by your comments and my answers to them:


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Originally Posted by LittleStrangeling
I went to a Christian school, and though they taught Creationism as the acceptable thing we also learned about evolution, the big bang theory, etc.
Me too. If you really, and I mean REALLY, learned about those theories, then your school is better than mine; but I bet you they did the same thing than in my school and you just believe they were being objective.
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It seems to me that you are misinformed though, scientist have not the foggiest idea as to how we began
Isn't the Big Bang theory an idea?
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as none of our theories can be proved or disproved.
That just shows a lack of understanding of what science is from your part, which I believe I will explain later.
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For all they know it could have been freaking aliens.
Alright, then why believe in creationism in particular if it's not evidenced that concerns you?
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I, honestly, cannot tolerate people such as yourself who think that just because it seems like a majority believes in something it is correct.
We're not going with the popular opinion. We're going with the one that has the most evidence. You're just making a personal attack, a flawed assumption, and all the while you're the one that looks stupid. If I believe that the sky is blue, and all the world believes the sky is blue, it's not that I'm fucking believing what everyone else does! It's that itr's so fucking obvious that most people can see it.
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I know that all creatures have adapted from what they originally were, because I've seen proof of it, but it's nothing so tremendous that you could never tell that they were that.
Prove me this. Try to rationalize the existence of the blind albino fish that exist solely in a network of caverns in Texas.
According to evolution, the fish were trapped when the underground springs were isolated, and in millions of years due to the darkness the fish's eyes were atrophied as they didn't need them, nor did they need melanin.
According to creationism, God put those fish in there with no color and no eyes and no way to survive outside of their small environment... because they were a pretty addition?
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There is no solid proof of where we actually began.
And there is no scientific proof that God exists. I'd rather take my "not-solid" scientific proof than my blatantly unscientific rationalization.
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The oldest homo sapien we have is Lucy
That was an Australopithecus Afarensis
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and you can see the similarities between her and us
Yes, because she's our 4.5 million year old ancestor
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and 500 years ago the average height was four foot something
Four feet? Are you fucking kidding me? And five hundred years ago?!
Explain me then how come medieval armors, which date back as much as 1200 years, or Roman armors which date back to over two millennia, are our size.
People indeed were smaller, but that's a fucking hyperbole that no one would take seriously.
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I should not have to explain why I don't believe in the big bang theory, but I'll put it into simple terms: when you add nothing to nothing, the outcome is still nothing.
That's bullshit as explained below.
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But our environment is constantly changing. How can we be made perfectly fit for an environment that's ever changing? Are you that idiotic?
Are you? Our genetic make-up is constantly changing from generation to generation. We all have an average of, what was it? Four mutations in our genome compared to others of our species?
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We were made perfectly to adapt to what's around us.
Then why have 99% of the species dies out?
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The theory is about how there was an explosion of nothing, but somehow the universe started
Christians love repeating that ad nauseum, but that's not even close. The fact that they could say this just proves you how they don't care about science but on trying to deny facts.
The Big Bang emerged from a singularity, infinitely dense and infinitely small. It was something! It was a singularity! It contained all of the mass in the universe in an infinitesimal size because, containing all the mass, it contained all the gravity.
So tell me how the "nothing out of nothing" works when it clearly disregards the whole inherent property of the big bang. It's literally "everything came out of everything"
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I'm not trying to discount it, I'm saying that I believe that we adapt to our surroundings, that I don't believe we were ever fish
Why not? It's perfectly plausible, with so many hundreds of millions of years and so much evidence describing a clear path of evolution, both in physical traits and in genetic ones.
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I'm also saying that creationism cannot be proved either.
Science is not about perfect proof. It's about probable truth. Just because something can never be proven do you really think everything deserves the same amount of validity? The theory of gravity can't be proven either. Do you think we should argue that it's equally valid that invisible angels actually push us down? Or that a cookie monster is trying to suck us to the center of the world? Or that we tend to fall because our natural state is in the ground?
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And, attempting to find out where humans began is more of History than science.
That's in fact not true regarding the matters of those fields.
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