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Old 11-23-2008, 11:55 AM   #40
Godslayer Jillian
 
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
A brain?
Conciousness?
The ability to feel pain?
Something all animals have, and yet we eat them, which leads to the conclusion that none of this are intrinsically valuable to be considered a human.
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
In addition to:
Legs
Ability to survive outside the body
Arms
Eyes
Ears
Etc...
These ones, of course, are just irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Drake Dun
It's a gratifying way to draw the line, because at least it has the advantage of being tolerably clear-cut (although I could easily play hell with it using well known facts of biology). There is a difference, however, between what's emotionally gratifying and what's intellectually satisfying. The latter requires something stronger than there being no obvious better option.
But yet both pro-lifers and pro-choicers keep trying to defend their stances based on only this black/white arbitrary line: where it becomes murder.
If pro-choicers choose simply to disregard the matter of 'murder or not murder' as a red herring (I do), then this becomes irrelevant.
But as soon as both try to fight only this one aspect of abortion, then it is pro-choicers who have the burden of proof.
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