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Originally Posted by HavelockV
Not that it will alter your view of individuals who enjoy Victorian fashion, but I would like to point out that Okami has stated that he is not interested in going the route of 'full Victorian regalia' so much as incorporating aspects of it into his appearance. I also feel that it is somewhat ignorant of you to continue using him as a whipping boy for your views regarding that time period.
It almost seems like your intent is to instill such a sense of ethnic guilt and obligation in him as to force him to repress a look that he seems naturally drawn to. While I feel that in some instances this may be justified, such as a the child of a Holocaust survivor strutting a full SS uniform in public, I would venture to say that Okami's attraction to Victorian style is tangential at worst.
Let the man, and all those 'goth club ... idiots' dress in their own way, and leave your whole intellectual superiority complex out of the equation. I fail to see why you insist on letting your apparently educated perspective spoil the harmless enjoyment that others derive out of dressing the way they like to.
God forbid someone wear a formal tailcoat or a taffeta bustle gown because Gothicusmaximus declares such affectation to be socially irresponsible.
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Whipping boy? Real choice of words there. :P
I'm not trying to do any of that, I just want to him to see that there are other options out there should he see that the Victorian style really ISN'T all peaches and cream and can be very limiting due to both the history our people have with it and the fact that almost everyone involved with it has next to no desire to stretch the concept beyond upper crust aristocrat. For as much as I don't really care for it, I'm surprised steampunk is still alive.
I can respect and maybe even like some aspects of Victorian style (schoolmarm, abolitionist, apothecary proprietor, madam, undertaker) but no one ever wants to be seedy, adventurous or creative. It's always the same aristocratic trappings and everyone always HAS to look dignified.
Another serious concern that I missed is that Okami only mentioned race in passing and it honestly sounds like he is more into the idea of being a goth man rather than a black man.
It's a shame he's not here often because I really do want to hear his side of the story. And I hope he at least thoroughly researches everything before he goes forward with it.