[Saya]

Originally Posted by Entropic

I thought it was nutritionalist was the one that was registered.

In that case, I'll modify my argument:

then I think it is only fair to force other people, like vegans without medical degrees who call themselves nutritionalists or holistic healers without a medicla degree, to do the same.

If you go to a holistic healer, you know what you're in for and its certainly your right to spend money on that kind of thing. If a holistic healer poses as a doctor to prevent people from receiving the evils of Western medicine, that is unethical and criminal.

I'm not saying it doesn't protect women.

However, it comes at the cost of ostracizing the church, which violates the other end of protecting the church from society.

How does it ostracize the church? "Sorry, we don't provide abortions." I'm sure they aren't going to get bombed or shot like abortion providers are. I'm sure they aren't going to experience any of the harassment that they have been putting women through. Christ, the church ostracizes people left right and center and for them its a religious right, but when a society tries to hinder them from doing so, its a horrible violation?

I did read the articles you posted. It's not the kind of information I'm looking for. I'm looking for numbers and statistics I can use to make a case. In this case we have anecdotes, which are great for adding an emotional touch. However, they can't make the bulk of a case.

As far as I know NARAL has the most information on them, but the Church doesn't like to issue much information that could damage them.

http://www.naral.org/assets/files/Ab...-CPC-truth.pdf

How many cases does that make up, for abortion? As far as I know, most abortions were done for economic or personal reasons, not because of a medical need. It's not different than a nutritionalist perscribing a diet that kills the patient. If someone's false advertisement harms other people, punish the individual case instead of creating a blanket law.

Not many but virtually all late term abortions are for medical reasons, and dont' forget that America has the very worst childbirth death rate in all the developed countries, giving birth can kill you, pregnancy could kill you, it will very much change your body, and it is always a health decision to carry or not to carry.

I think its better to prevent people from dying or getting bogus health advise when they thought they were getting real medical care, yes? Why let a nutritionalist poison people, if its preventable?