Oh, I actually thought Gypsy had done everybody a favour when he posted the link below in the "Goth with a Sledgehammer" thread.
Dante, click the link, read the page AND THEN come back and tell us all about your goth definition, mkay?
http://www.blood-dance.net/goth/grant.html
Giga: regarding your difficulty to read Gypsy's posts, you can change the whole style of YOUR gothic.net page by clicking "PROFILE" on top of the page, and from then, go on to themes.
Thank you for calling.