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Originally Posted by LaBelleDameSansMerci
Please don't call me toots.
Why is religious goodness wrong? Do you consider it to be inherently wrong or less good than non-religious goodness, or is it OK if it's not bigoted?
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Religious goodness is inherently less "good" than secular goodness because religious goodness is done out of fear of punishment/desire for a reward. This has already been addressed. Please read the damn thread toots.
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Salvation army doesn't deny their services to anyone. They'll feed an axe murderer before they call the cops on him (they wouldn't let him go, of course). Is that wrong?
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Yes. Get that axe murderer off the damn street before he kills someone else, don't let him just sit there slurping noodles
you dick.
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I'm not superstitious or religious. Probably the closest thing I get to having a religious experience is when I look at something that's beautiful but not man-made, like a lone willow on a riverbank, or a spectacular skyscape, or thick snow clinging to evergreens, and that's more of a "I'm fucking glad that exists so I can appreciate it. I just don't think that it's wrong for people to believe in the divine if it suits better than not.
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This is because you hold politeness over truth. This point of view is logically inconsistent, and inherently dishonest. Again, read the thread.
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You're right, you are being a dick about it, and doing nothing for your cause. I fully support your aim of getting people to embrace science. I just don't think that saying "You can't prove your god exists, therefore you're an idiot for believing in it" is going to get you anywhere.
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Kontan never said that. He said you're an idiot for continuing to argue indefensible positions and completely missing the point. You're embarrasing yourself. Stop it.
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Humanity is not strictly science and cold reason, you know. Our brains are more complex than that. Irrationality is as much a part of humanity as is logic, and both have allowed great things to be achieved.
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No one has argued that. Now you're trying to make Kontan and I into straw-Vulcans. Once again, read the thread and stop embarrassing yourself.