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Old 03-31-2012, 12:14 AM   #52
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My argument is you are trying to demonize him as a bad person who was inevitably going to engage in mass murder. You suggested that his criminal background was a major contributing factor, and you again asserted that he joined the military exclusively to dodge responsibility.

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Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post
Per your comments about him going into infantry, I would counter that if he was on the run from the law and looking to get into the military as fast as possible he signed up and took whatever position was open and could get him to boot camp the fastest. You know as well as I do that with the delayed entry programme they put off some of the more popular jobs for up to two years, yet let people who want to join and go into infantry ship out in a matter of weeks if not days.
I'll pretend this is relevant in the slightest. This is blatantly untrue. I don't have anything more then anecdotal evidence on hand, but let's be fucking honest: I know a lot more people who have joined the army then you do.

Anyway. I've gathered something to support my claim that his service was the contributing factor.

4.4

The likely hood more that a combat veteran will commit domestic violence against a spouse or partner than other men.

6.4

The likely hood more that a combat veteran will suffer from post traumatic stress disorder then other men.

2-3

The likely hood more that a combat veteran will suffer from depression, substance abuse, unemployment, and divorce/separation then other men.

21%

The amount of domestic violence in America that would drop without combat veterans.

http://winoverptsd.com/wp/yale-study...buse/#more-339

114

The murder rate higher within a unit returning from Iraq then the city that they returned to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072702331.html


19.5 per 100,000

The general American population's suicide rate

20.2 per 100,000

The army's suicide rate.

30%

The number of those suicides that occurred while in combat.

35%

The number of those suicides that occurred after a deployment.

4

The likely hood more that a soldier between the ages 20-24 will commit suicide than a civilian in the same age bracket.

20%

An estimate of how many Afghanistan and Iraq veterans suffer from post traumatic stress disorder.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/fe...suic-f04.shtml

And this is nothing to say about the number of rapes and sexual assault in veterans, or prior to the event, Bales' friend had a leg blown off, was drinking, and having marital problems.

Now I want you to show me how many criminals used theft as a gateway crime to mass murder.

I also still want you to tell me what you think 5 decades of war is like before you saying anything.
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