[Saya]

Originally Posted by Jonathan

We both see problems with society, I think cutting the wealth disparity at the knees will give more people better and faster opportunities to improve their lot in life. I see racial injustices as either stemming from economic factors or as failures of individuals and not necessarily as evidence of a corrupt system. I think a racist dickhead is evidence of a racist dickhead, and not proof of institutional policy.

How do you figure racism stems from classism when racism in America predates America? That racism predates capitalism? That we were slaughtering aboriginals way before the dollar system, and poor white folks like us seriously enjoyed coming to this continent because we could pick on people of colour and enjoy authority over them?

How can you say a system set up to protect the interests of the wealthy you claim you want to cut down isn't corrupt?

We can go back and forth while I ignore the occasional catcalls from the sidelines a little further, or I can recognize a stalemate when I see one. I'm not going to convince you, you're not likely to convince me, I fail to see what good will come out of belaboring that point.

There are other things to read about and discuss. Feel free to engage or not.

There is no stalemate with racism. You can go on with your life not caring about people of colour just fine, I could do the same if I so choose. But people of colour do not have that arrogance or privilege. This is why PoC don't trust us white allies.

Originally Posted by Audre Lorde

Some problems we share as women, some we do not. You fear your children will grow up to join the patriarchy and testify against you, we fear our children will be dragged from a car and shot down in the street, and you will turn your backs upon the reasons they are dying.