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Old 05-16-2004, 08:54 AM   #112
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Originally Posted by raven_of_mourning
in my opinion one thing i cant stand is homosexuals trying to be married in a church that is christian..
First, I can’t stand is not interchangeable with I do not understand, or I don’t mind. It is, ironically, interchangeable with I hate and I fucking loath, so maybe you can see where your points begin to drift from your meaning?


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Originally Posted by raven_of_mourning
You still have yet to understand what I said in the first place. Now whether or not the original texts or what Jesus said or anything proving whether the texts that say it is wrong are true or not, that is a totally different topic. The point is that is the book that the christian church is based off of and it says that it is wrong but yet gays want to be part of it, it just doesnt make any sense to me. I never was raising an issuse that they shouldnt be married and your quote from my original post doesnt say that I am saying gays shouldnt be married.
I understand what you are TRYING to say, but you’re just not saying it well (read your first statement above.) I’ve tried to stimulate your thought process by being reactionary, by being flamboyant, condescending, and even trite, which is what I am right now, but you still don’t get it.

I’ll help you out.

What you are trying to say is you don’t understand why gays would want to be married, or would want to be a part of an organization that condemns them. Now, it’s not the church that condemns them specifically, the church is rather free with their condemnations and doesn’t discriminate so much on the degree of sin but rather seeks to teach the existence and avoidance of it, yet it’s the people of the church; through personal interpretations and mock understandings, who try to impose a measure of moral superiority on everyone around them.

And instead of just saying you don’t understand why a person would want to belong to a spiritual institution whose members routinely attack them, which we can compare with our own little board here and ask why you would want to be part of a community that rejects you, but instead of saying you don’t understand you try to dress it up, and your makeup does nothing but reveal you further in the harsh intolerant light of ignorance.

Enough on that subject.


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Originally Posted by raven_of_mourning
And just how did I take the emphasis away from human rights? That is what I want to know. Oh I am diverting your attention away from the issue and attempting to throw a fog of uncertainness about... wow getting poetic arnt ya T... It seems to me you have done a remarkable job of diverting things from the issue to a simple "flame raven post." You never made a single post arguing the issue opppsite of what I said, all it was, was a bunch of drivel about how I am stupid, blah blah blah dont quote the bible, blah blah blah I want to anally **** you with a baseball bat with nails in it (resorting to violence right away.. good way to start, do you start and finish all arguments with violence?), blah blah blah stop trying to convert people, blah blah blah ooo I know what your intentions were from the very begining (because obvious you are psychic, dipshit) But really, just how did I take the emphasis away from human rights? This should be a good post from you, cant wait to read it.
You are taking the emphasis away because you deride the issue in personal morality, and it’s easy to make people forget we are talking about actual honest to goodness people when we strip away their humanity, which also makes it easier to hate them. We’ve done the same thing to Women, Native Americans, Jews, Blacks, Chinese, Arabic and more notably Islamic People, and to whatever the new flavor of next month may bring.

As for me not making a single post in opposition of your argument, well that’s just fucking stupid isn’t it? What you should have said is I haven’t engaged your ideas in direct debate, and I would think the reason for that obvious. YOU don’t have to be psychic to figure them out, just like you I gave a few hints as to my motivations.

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