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Old 04-10-2011, 03:18 PM   #51
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Again, you're repeatedly referencing one or two of our covers, and ignoring the hundreds of others. Why? Because you've looked at the others, you've seen the talent, and you know that if you reference those other covers your argument will lose all of its weight.
I've referenced the books that you've brought here. I've given credit where credit is due (Hard-Boiled Vampire Killers, the first 3 anthologies) and Mocked where mockery was due (Our Lady of Shadows, The Disappeared, The Gaki, That wierd Rockstar-Clock-Snake-Eye-Ring-Gun cover, John Edwards Vs. Bicep Angels etc.) I didn't mock Fangtooth's cover because it was pretty good, and instead chose to mock it's stupid title. I've been harping on "The Disappeared" alot because it's simply the worst one I've seen so far.

Are you trying to get me to go to your website and start skimming through "hundereds" of bookcovers with the intention of pointing out where you've failed? That sounds suspiciously like you're trolling me, or trying to do some sort of reverse-marketing where I draw attention to your books by pointing out and making fun of whatever wierd composition/art related eyefails I can find. Sorry dude, I have a life. I'll mock the one's you bring here for my own amusment, but if you want me to do this on any kind of a scale, I'd better be drawing a paycheck. (I'm a pusher, the first taste is free, then you have to pay)

Honestly, I'm more concerned that you seem to agree with the fact that the covers I've singled out are indeed terrible. If you agree that some of these are horrible covers, then why did you publish them? I mean there can't be much money in the small-press-independent-horror publishing industry, which means you're doing it for the love of the art, and if you're doing it for that, why shoot yourself in the foot with horrible cover art? Why waste all that time an effort on something which is clearly sub-par and won't sell?

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Yes, I've been using Photoshop for eight years. The line drawings (hand drawn) were added in as a layer in your Afterall cover. Yes, I could re-create that cover in five minutes. Yes, it's garbage.
Okay, Do it. Time yourself. I'm waiting.

Bare in MIND however, that once again, I've been talking about the composition, not the content. I'm sure more time was spent on "The Gaki" than Afterall, but Afterall is still a better cover. You guy probably spends more time on his art than Jackson Pollock spent on some of his drip paintings Yet Pollock's work is regarded as far more artistically significant than the aformentioned "Gaki" or anything else done by your artist. Time Spent /= A powerful image, nor does compexity. There are plenty of artists who spend more time on something that really isn't very good. Even if you CAN recreate the line art, scan it, layer it, compose it and edit it all in five minutes (You can't) that won't mean that Afterall's postcard art isn't a better, more dynamic image than anything you've brought to the table so far.
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Fifteen Minutes by William Ollie, second novel in our Dark Thriller series is now available for preorder. Read more about the new novel here: http://www.darkregions.com/products/...iam-Ollie.html
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That cover isn't half bad, almost would read it. If it weren't for it being a collection of short stories that are most probably crap. Too many times have I picked up one of these "award winning" collection of mini stories and found them to be nothing more than terrible unimaginative/unoriginal word vomit slapped together in hopes of making a quick buck.

Desp, as i agree with you that Stephen King is a shitty and overrated author, I have to disagree that Stephanie Meyer is one as well. Granted she is grossly overrated, but she isn't too terrible of an author.

Neil Gaiman is fucking awesome.
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See? There you go. That's how you do it! That's actually passable. The emphasis is actually ON the title, and the tiny text below makes me want to take a closer look. This could be an actual poster, that was sold to boring people.

I am so fucking proud of you son.

Now you just need to figure out how to get an author photo that doesn't look like you've ambushed them at nine in the morning and they're slightly embarrassed because they haven't had their coffee and aren't wearing pants.

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I don't think that tittle quite fits him. He is more like Loki. Actually that character probably suits you better. But HaSatan and Desp. I don't see the similarities.
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Thanks for the continued support guys, it means a lot. I'm also glad you're being objective, without passing judgement on books you haven't read.

Desp I would hope you like that cover, it's by Vincent Chong, winner of the Bram Stoker award three years in a row for Best Artist.

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You're welcome. Like I've been saying you people really should pay me.

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Thanks for the continued support guys, it means a lot. I'm also glad you're being objective, without passing judgement on books you haven't read.
I guess I should go to Barnes&Nobles and start reading every book in order to its proximity to the door before I reach the fiction section, right? Otherwise who am I to say I'm entitled to pass them by if I haven't actually read them?
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All I'm saying is that it makes complete sense to call books bad that you haven't even read, doesn't it? For example:

Boy, the Game of Thrones TV show is great, but the book series by George R. R. Martin is trash, I would suspect.

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Desp, as i agree with you that Stephen King is a shitty and overrated author, I have to disagree that Stephanie Meyer is one as well. Granted she is grossly overrated, but she isn't too terrible of an author.
Are you HIGH? I mean Stephen King may suck, but Stephanie Meyer? The man is LEAGUES beyond her, both in writing skill and story-telling ability.

I could at least get a few chapters into Cell. I nearly vomited about 5 pages into Twilight, and eventually had to put it down out of sheer boredom.
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All I'm saying is that it makes complete sense to call books bad that you haven't even read, doesn't it? For example:

Boy, the Game of Thrones TV show is great, but the book series by George R. R. Martin is trash, I would suspect.

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But if the show TV show sucked, could one not reasonably infer that the books were crap?

I mean, of course one can't judge a book by it's cover, but if the cover is horrible and the author looks slightly embarrassed at the idea of being photographed, and it has a terrible title like "Seventeen Seconds" or "Fangtooth" and the publishing company in question has their vice-president spamming it on a Goth forum and some ridiculously intelligent and staggeringly handsome bloke is mocking circles around said vice-president...one can make a reasonable inference as to the quality contained within the pages. We can't say objectively that something is bad, but you don't have to drink poison to know it's poison if it says so on the label ya dig?

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People who say Stephen King sucks generally fall into two categories:

1. Contrarians ("Oh, that something that I like is popular now, that means I'll stop liking it.")
2. Literary snobs ("There's not enough purple prose in this writing, and the author isn't using a thesaurus to find archaic adjectives in every sentence!")

King rose to the forefront in fiction because of his skill. There were plenty of other horror authors during the time of his rise that didn't see anything close to a similar ascent.
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I must fall into a third category then. I hate Stephen King because he is a sell out author that pumps out bullshit and only makes the money he does because of his name. His stories are completely ridiculous as well. Now there are a few of which I have enjoyed, but 3 out of his, what, 2,000 books is a bad statistic. He irritates me because he gets away with it.

Stephanie Meyer, yes she sucks , but I seem to want to defend her. It's like Justin Beibier, I loathe his music, and I don't really care for him personally, but the kid has talent and I give him that. That talent his squandered away however and that is... well irritating. Not that I am saying that Stephen King does not have talent. Yes, he is leagues above Meyer, but fuck, he pisses me off.
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The problem is, Stephanie Meyer DOESN'T have talent. She sucked all the vampire teenie bopper girls into literature successfully, I give her that. Somehow she pulled them away from their Jonas Brothers to read books, it's an admirable feat.

I only had to read one of her books to realize she has a severe lack of skill in prose and story-telling ability. It's truly written for teenage girls, which is a great economic group to go after, mind you.

Stephen King pumps out bullshit? I would wager that you haven't read hardly any of his recent work, and are just making assumptions. Many of his newer works (Bag of Bones, Duma Key to name but a couple) are actually quite good.

I read almost everything King puts out (along with many other authors) and he's certainly not pumping out "bullshit." Yeah, he's a very prolific writer. Something tells me if you were paid as much as he is to write you would be sitting your ass in front of the computer for four hours a day yourself.

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I must fall into a third category then. I hate Stephen King because he is a sell out author that pumps out bullshit and only makes the money he does because of his name. His stories are completely ridiculous as well. Now there are a few of which I have enjoyed, but 3 out of his, what, 2,000 books is a bad statistic. He irritates me because he gets away with it.

Stephanie Meyer, yes she sucks , but I seem to want to defend her. It's like Justin Beibier, I loathe his music, and I don't really care for him personally, but the kid has talent and I give him that. That talent his squandered away however and that is... well irritating. Not that I am saying that Stephen King does not have talent. Yes, he is leagues above Meyer, but fuck, he pisses me off.
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Speaking as someone who has also read almost everything Stephen King has put out, both old and more recent works, some of it IS bullshit. Thing I've found with him is that when he's good, he's really really good but when he isn't, the results are awful.As golden as that goose might be, not all it's eggs are made of gold.
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People who say Stephen King sucks generally fall into two categories:

1. Contrarians ("Oh, that something that I like is popular now, that means I'll stop liking it.")
2. Literary snobs ("There's not enough purple prose in this writing, and the author isn't using a thesaurus to find archaic adjectives in every sentence!")

King rose to the forefront in fiction because of his skill. There were plenty of other horror authors during the time of his rise that didn't see anything close to a similar ascent.
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!! WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT LITERATURE! IN THE LITERATURE FORUM!!!

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I reiterate: I am SO fucking proud of you Chris_Morey. You have come such a long way.

Anyway, on Stephen King:

Once again: I am not a fan. From what I have read (granted not much) I find his prose abominable, and his characters cliche'd and uninteresting. Granted I'm basing this opinion off one book (Cell) and the various Stephen King movies I've seen (IT, Rose Red, The shining remake, that vampire one, Pet Cemetery, The Langoliers etc.)

There are some good ideas he's working with but more often than not in my experience MAN OH MAN is the execution off.

This is not to say that I wouldn't give his work another chance, given the opportunity. With a body of work as large as his there are bound to be some gems.

That Said Chris, you're right on the money about Meyer, the woman has no talent. I'm not sure how she managed to strike such a chord with popular culture, perhaps simple luck? right place and time? (coupled with some awesome cover-art and a slick marketing campaign).

My roommate keeps telling me that I need to just write some overly simplistic/formulaic bullshit to appeal to the average idiot, but I'm not convinced. My opinion on the matter is that Marketing is what made twilight what it was, and luck got it published in the first place. Shit without luck and marketing is just shit at the end of the day.

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I think it had to do with Harry Potter coming to an end in it's series and people trying to fit a replacement. Twilight was simply enough written that any 14 year girl could pick it up and read it, educated or not. Thus it's popularity. I agree that the books suck, but have a hard time saying, for some unknown reason I cant put my finger on.

And yes, we are talking literature in the literature forum. This makes me so freaking happy, that and Chris Morey isn't just ad service anymore, he's actually giving his opinions and interacting with the natives. Desp. you are my hero for making this happen.
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Desp, if you've only read Cell then it's completely understandable how you formed your opinion on King. Go read The Shining, Salem's Lot and The Stand and you'll come to find he writes some of the best characters in post-modern fiction.

Sure, his ideas aren't always the most original, nor does he write in an overly complicated, literary manner, he writes popular fiction. Whether or not you're more of a reader of literature or pop fiction, that doesn't change what King is best at. There are few authors who can create such well developed, three-dimensional characters as King.

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Speaking as someone who has also read almost everything Stephen King has put out, both old and more recent works, some of it IS bullshit. Thing I've found with him is that when he's good, he's really really good but when he isn't, the results are awful.As golden as that goose might be, not all it's eggs are made of gold.
MissCheyenne, not all of his work is masterful, but his ratio of good work to bad work has been pretty solid recently. There was a time when his work was sagging (shortly after the accident) but since then things have picked up. I'd like to know which of his recent work you would consider "pumped out bullshit."
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There you go, that's how you do it!

If I find the time, I'll pick up a title or two. I've got 2 other books on my reading list and I've been so damn busy lately, I haven't really had time for novels.

Maybe I'll try out that E-book reader I got for christmas...

edit: oh btw, grats on the award win. I forgot to say that earlier.
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