I am ashamed.

hottignorance · 10-30-2005, 03:42 PM

Well I am 16 male gay and new to the whole gothic scene. I really don't want to oppose, but I would like some change.

I know how to do all the makeup stuff, but the whole clothing thing scares me into submission. I am 5' 11'', blk hair, brwn eyes and very average. I don't know what to try, I have been to hot topic and it totally to expensive for nothing but cheap crap; if I wanted word tees and an ugly pair of pants I would just shop at Sears. So please help, I am so confused. I am truly willing to try anything.

Raven SilverWolf · 10-30-2005, 07:03 PM

well i never shop at hottopic for pants, just shirts occationally. just go buy some black pants to your liking at walmart or target, even a thrift store. and depending on your own personal style, buy some dark shirts. walmart has a wide selection of dark t-shirts and depending on were you live, spencers gifts has great accesories. feel free to ask anything else.

Black Gestalt · 10-30-2005, 10:21 PM

Never go to hot topic. Not just because it's a consumer whore store, but because their clothes are crappy and a rip off.

I usually make my clothes, alter them, or get them from local places. Seattle is good for this thing, I don't know about arizona though.

As for altering stuff, which is fun to do when your bored, it's easy to get some leather. Then just get black shirts or whatever, and sew stuff on. Get some leatherworking stuff, studs, whatever your into. It's kinda fun.

ElizabethBlack · 10-30-2005, 10:34 PM

I never go to that Store, I usually buy my Dresses from eBay.com, they have very good deals there.
But sometimes when I feel like being creative I go to a Thrift Store, or a Good Will and buy some clothes from there, then I go home and start cutting & sewing away.

polished_wolf_claws · 11-01-2005, 11:37 AM

Indeed... never been to hot topic.... but I think that buying second hand clothing is always a good idea.... as I have said on other threads, you should look at dance appearal stores for shirts of you like the victorian look......

if you like the Punky/industrial look into buying a studder or a rivvetting gun....... buy some leather straps and go strap happy on some things....

and also look into military surplus stores... good boots, shirts... soemtimes pants.... and if your a patch person, always has military ranking patches around.

*If your old enough* and into the fetish look, go to a few sex shops.... they usually have a few tassles and whips.... soemtimes some nice bondage/ fishnet clothing..... oh.. and ballgags.

Formula Egoletum · 11-03-2005, 09:17 PM

1 box of RIT dye costs almost nothing at your local drug store. Raid your closet for anything with a nice cut, that suits you and give it a new color. However, when using black try to work outside if at all possible. If not for the stains, for the smell.

Bon chance

Circle V · 11-04-2005, 05:24 PM

For t-shirts and such, try your favorite band's websites. If they aren't hugely well-known, you'll get good deals and clothes that few other people your area are likely to have. Band sites have cool accessories at times, too.

Otherwise, I'm in the same boat as you. I'd like to make my own clothes, but I don't have the equipment necessary, other than sewing materials. However, I'm not great at sewing, and I worry about ruining my clothes with poor stitching.

Where could we find leather straps, rivets, studs, etc.?

Nemesis · 11-06-2005, 12:11 PM

Buy stuff and customise it into what you want, or alternatively you could find very nice person who will either help you or make up some clothes for you drom your own designs, or you could do some yourself if you can work a machine, if not customize, customize and keep customizing!

angleangel_doom · 11-06-2005, 05:47 PM

*chants*
Thrift stores, thrift stores, thrift stores, thrift stores, thrift stores...yah!!!!

But totally, those are your best bet if you wanna be original.
And just remember, there are other colors (shades, really...black is a shade...) other than black ^_^

Circle V · 11-06-2005, 07:59 PM

Thank ya kindly.

Of course-- most of my clothes aren't black, in fact.

unseelie_sidhee · 11-07-2005, 06:40 PM

formula, i hate to say it but you're WAY the hell off. Rit dye is inexpensive because it's mostly just plain old salt. it blows ass and only assclowns who want to dress in bluey gray use the shit. i really haven't found another good clothes dye since Dekka L went caput, but believe me there are other brands of dye out there and they are worth the extra couple bucks. check the internet, it's worth it. i haven't dyed my clothes in a long time, like 6 years, not since i was 15, but i used to all the time. when/if you do dye clothes, be sure to BOIL the clothes in the dye in a big pot on the stove for at least 2-4 hours. when you're done, don't rinse the garment right away. instead, set it in a corner or something overnight to cool. the garment will want to rise to the top when boiling, but i've found that putting a brick on top of it, in the water, keeps it in place pretty well [i now have a nicely dyed black brick which i keep for its sentimental value and use as a doorstop]. just keep an eye on it so that if the brick starts to slip you can readjust it. and wear long, disposable gloves, like dishwashing gloves [i don't recommend the fetishwear kind due to the fact that it would be... unsanitary]. when you do rinse your newly darkened duds, use HOT water, as hot as your hands can stand; it will set the stain. let it dry completely afterward before you wash it, but DO wash before wearing. thereafter, only launder the thing inside out in cold water and don't machine dry it. this will keep your black clothes black. actually, you can do that for any black threads and it'll keep them from fading as fast. if you do put them in the dryer, use the 'low/delicate' setting.

that's all i have to say about that.

bloodembrace · 11-09-2005, 05:38 AM

i fully agree..RIT blows. but as a last resort, buy the RIT powder that u just add water too and add a lot less water than the box reccomends.. it's only a little toxic but it works much better.

CountessBathory · 11-09-2005, 06:56 AM

I know you've heard this enough, but avoid Hot Topic. It turns goth into this concept of expencive trendy looks you just have to have... and giving in to that makes you just as bad as these "oh my god, capelets are so IN right now! I gotta have one!!" girls I live with. That and they never have what I'm looking for in the store. Something along the lines of:

"Hi, one of the few remaining popular gothrock bands released a shirt exclusively to your store, and I was wondering where it is."
"Wow, never heard of them, but please enjoy the HIM and Good Charlotte shirt collection we have to offer while we call ourselves goth."

Makes me crazy.

Anyway, if you want to start out in the look... don't worry too much about if everything you like is technically "goth". Ebay is FANTASTIC (and you can type the word goth into mens clothing and come up with more stuff than you can shake a stick at). As far as makeup goes.... just remember less is more when it comes to boys (though all boys should wear make-up in my opinion). Don't "Crow" out your eyes... don't draw things on your face while you're still getting used to it... its a sure way to be rooted out as new to the scene.

CountessBathory · 11-09-2005, 07:58 AM

That is true... though even their spikes and collars have begun to go by the wayside. Spencers Gifts has a great collection of accessories (though they're just as overpriced as Hot Topic) and if you have a local headshop, you may be able to find something unique and goth-ish there.

Raven SilverWolf · 11-12-2005, 09:33 AM

There may also be places in town you dont know of. Try asking arround...

Circle V · 11-12-2005, 09:45 AM

I visited a local Value Village yesterday-- it wasn't the gothy heaven I envisioned, but they had some nice stuff. I was looking at a black, long-sleeve, button-down shirt with a cut I liked for a while until my mom pointed out that it was a 70s disco shirt. It had a kinda slimy texture and was partially transparent-- I hadn't noticed that.

I ended up buying a Marines camouflage coat with the name still on it (Venturo.) I also found a black US Navy long-sleeve shirt from the USS Fife (whatever that is). These cost me a total of $14.

DeathTrip · 11-12-2005, 01:11 PM

Camden in London (UK) All the way. I feel the need to take you all there.. the fashion scene is amazing. It has a huge cyber dog store, the black rose and many many more!

Jane13 · 11-13-2005, 07:44 PM

Ah! I've been to those websites! I wanna go... *sigh*

Morganna_lefay · 11-13-2005, 09:14 PM

I love heavyred clothing, but ****** goth doesn't always work for males I suppose I agree down with hot topic! they turn goth prep

Circle V · 11-14-2005, 04:33 PM

You could go for a Japanese/anime kinda look, I suppose. There are quite a lot of Goths in Japan, apparently... it would be cool to get clothes from there.

Jane13 · 11-14-2005, 04:40 PM

well, viskei anyway.. like these guys..

or something *shug*

Circle V · 11-14-2005, 05:01 PM

Yepyep. I like the guy on the bottom's clothes.

Jane13 · 11-14-2005, 05:45 PM

I have too much time on my hands...

Manimal · 11-16-2005, 07:55 PM

Whatever happened to the simplicity of cutoff cargo pants, combat boots, and a wife beater?

ajspear · 11-18-2005, 12:24 AM

I wish I lived in Japan, besides the property value and having to not speak englisha nd learn 3 alfabets, I am taking as my language though, we just wach movies thw whole time, but I'll teach you all to say "I am ______." here we go.

"Watashi wa ______ desu."

please not the desu is acualy pronouced des, not desu. This is based on there alfabet and if your writing then the "su" is "su", but just don't say "su" say "s". I know confusing, and the the "wa" after watashi is writen as "ha" but, since it is a particle it is pronoinced "wa"

End nerd janguage freek level 2.