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Old 10-16-2007, 12:57 PM   #1
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Goth Craft....uh..what?

So there's a book out called Goth Craft: The Magickal Side of Dark Culture. Anyone else feel like laughing at this with me?
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:16 PM   #2
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I have it. It explains goth fairly well but it seems to confuse goth with religion about halfway through. I would not recommend it to someone who does not know anything about goth. It isn't the best book for babybats because it does confuse goth and religion a bit too much.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:31 PM   #3
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This has got to be the dumbest thing since...

You know what, no. It must be a new era of dumb.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:02 PM   #4
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Well, what's the book about?
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:05 PM   #5
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Well, what's the book about?
From the website:

"Digitalis introduces many kinds of Goths and Witches, and the philosophy of each. Practical as well as insightful, Goth Craft covers the basics of magick, with special attention to blood magick, death magick, and necromancy. You'll also learn how to channel dark emotions, express yourself through the dark arts (clothes, hair, makeup, body modification), choose appropriate Goth music for ritual, and myriad other ways to merge magickal practice with the Goth lifestyle."

Hooray for all the ridiculous stereotyping this book will likely lead to.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:01 PM   #6
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I have that game, I'm a level 12 Goblin Mage with +5 eyeliner!

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Old 10-16-2007, 05:22 PM   #7
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Nah, man. I have +2 finger claws. I can also fart magick missile!
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:28 PM   #8
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Like I said, it explains goth well.....in the beginning, but then it just gets too 'magic-y' and weird. It almost starts to sound silly once you get past the first few pages.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:30 PM   #9
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I think someone forgot to tell this bat that goth is NOT divine.

Jesus Christ...
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:52 PM   #10
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It almost starts to sound silly once you get past the first few pages.
It's from Llewellyn, what'd you expect? Most of their books published are extremely fluffy.

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I think someone forgot to tell this bat that goth is NOT divine.
I think someone forget to tell him not to give yorself a ridiculous pen name. Raven Digitalis? Come the fuck on!
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:09 PM   #11
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Haha, sounds like a new game Blizzard just pumped out.

How amusing. I can see it now:

"Im a lv 40 romantigoth necromancer w/ +30 def boots, bi0tches! beet that!"
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:20 PM   #12
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It's from Llewellyn, what'd you expect? Most of their books published are extremely fluffy.



I think someone forget to tell him not to give yorself a ridiculous pen name. Raven Digitalis? Come the fuck on!

One of the reasons I find myself being more at odds with other occultists these days...

Hopefully, this shit will NOT pick up steam. I was once told by this lady that it would be a good idea for me to make "goth" into a religion. I... wow... just... wow.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:39 PM   #13
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Here's an article by him here on witchvox.com
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Nah, I'd just laugh and I need sleep. Goodnight everyone.

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Old 10-17-2007, 09:46 AM   #15
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I'd buy the book, but then again I love books and will read anything not tied down. Just wish he had went through another company. Llewellyn does do it's share of fluff.
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Hopefully, this shit will NOT pick up steam. I was once told by this lady that it would be a good idea for me to make "goth" into a religion. I... wow... just... wow.
I don't think it will. Konstantinos and his books "Nocturnal Witchcraft" and "Gothic Grimoire" are both about merging being a Goth with Wiccan practice (although both of them focus heavily on magic rather than Wicca), yet he doesn't seem to be too well-known among Wiccans or witches.

I don't see anything wrong with merging the two if one so wishes, so long as the distinctions between Goth and religion are kept. Problem is, too many people cannot make this distinction and that is where confusion is born.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:16 AM   #17
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I think someone forget to tell him not to give yorself a ridiculous pen name. Raven Digitalis? Come the fuck on!
It's still slightly better than Silver Ravenwolf.

Do you think Llewellyn requires that all of its authors publish under pen names containing the word Raven?
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It's still slightly better than Silver Ravenwolf.
Christ, I thought it was crap before....
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:43 AM   #19
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I saw that book a couple weeks ago at my local Barnes N Nobles. I nearly peed my pants with amusement. Luckily I made it to the bathroom which is on the same floor.

The title of the bool intrugued me, so I picked it up.
I was curious as to the author, so I looked in back and read a bit.
Nearly shat myself with disbelief that such stuff was actually published.
And that name! Oh that horrible horrible name!!!!

The Raven part was tolerable, but "Digitalis"??!?!!

Boy should have just stayed home.
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:10 PM   #20
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It's still slightly better than Silver Ravenwolf.

Do you think Llewellyn requires that all of its authors publish under pen names containing the word Raven?
so far i know of Raven Grimassi and Linda Ravenscroft
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Old 10-18-2007, 03:29 PM   #21
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This has got to be the dumbest thing since...

You know what, no. It must be a new era of dumb.
LOL. I can't help but to agree with that. :P
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:39 PM   #22
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YES! That book is so annoying. He/she(I don't even know if the author is a guy or girl) uses words that are very unnecessary.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:43 PM   #23
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...I always thought a Goth Craft was something like THIS.

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Old 10-22-2007, 01:19 PM   #24
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This idiot also has a myspace page. He put in a friend request. I took one look, read a few things on that page and then.....DENY. That book was on the tables in waterstones. I just completely bypassed it and shuffled into my usual territory of the fantasy section.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:43 PM   #25
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You know it's bad when he's doing a book tour and Fiona Horne is doing an appearance. Oh no..
I went to his myspace..and i wont even begin to mention how ridiculous i think it is.
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