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Old 01-18-2013, 02:44 PM   #26
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Yeah. Which kind of brings up the rest of my point. The more people have to fight for their rights, the less important an agreed upon list of rights by some ancient dudes becomes.

The world is changing and I kind of see the BOR standing in the way or being a distraction to achieving more rights for the people.

Honestly, I still don't understand why people are so opposed to marriage equality. It doesn't really add up cause I am sure they have the sense to see why it's at least fair.
That's your opinion,and I disagree with it as it realates to the B.O.R.

The very reason that we need to fight to preserve those rights is what keeps us informed and ever watchful of the government,and that helps to keep the government in check.

Remember the original flag of our nation (the gadsden flag) featured a rattle snake that is in a coiled ready to strike position,this summed up the attitude needed to keep our republic and the rights others have died fighting for.

To quote one of the reasons for this choice is that the eyes of the depicted animal never blink,and as such it is a symbol of the eternal vigilance the people must have.

The ready to strike position also stood for the defenisve nature we must have toward our government,in case those in power forget that it is their job to serve us and not the other way around.

Which is also why so many have taken up the old flag as of late, not as a threat but as a warning.

You also do a disservice to your oath (you do claim to be a vet after all,and you did swear an oath to protect the Constitution and B.O.R. when you joined the armed forces of this country,am I right?)
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:33 PM   #27
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That's your opinion,and I disagree with it as it realates to the B.O.R.

The very reason that we need to fight to preserve those rights is what keeps us informed and ever watchful of the government,and that helps to keep the government in check.
I think what really gets on my nerves is a lot of people's failure to see the distinction between the state and the government. Though that's not really their fault.


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Yeah. I don't care. We haven't actually fought like that for freedom in a very very very long time. Those white men you worship aren't prophets and values amongst people change generation to generation. Hence why the BOR doesn't entirely mean anything.

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To quote one of the reasons for this choice is that the eyes of the depicted animal never blink,and as such it is a symbol of the eternal vigilance the people must have.
If the people were really so interested in liberation and freedom, they'd be executing CEOs. That's actually not happening.

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The ready to strike position also stood for the defenisve nature we must have toward our government,in case those in power forget that it is their job to serve us and not the other way around.
Again... if the people are so duty bound, then where is the revolution against privatization? Why is it all of a sudden a criminal offense when the Black Panthers militarize?

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Who are these people that real revolutionaries have to be afraid of? Why does the anarchist, the communist, and any minority have to fear if they saw to it to mobilize for their own brand of liberation? Because they're not flying the white man's snake blanket. They're flying the red banner.

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I don't care. The BOR doesn't mean anything to the anarchist or the communist or well.... any sort of political group. It's vapor words because when you interpret the BOR to have the right to say... defend only yourself and your property; I see that right to have the people militarize and take the law into their own hands to liberate themselves from corporate plunder. You and I both come to different conclusions to what the BOR means. And only one of us is right or the document doesn't even matter. I take it that the document doesn't matter.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:22 PM   #28
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I think what really gets on my nerves is a lot of people's failure to see the distinction between the state and the government. Though that's not really their fault.




Yeah. I don't care. We haven't actually fought like that for freedom in a very very very long time. Those white men you worship aren't prophets and values amongst people change generation to generation. Hence why the BOR doesn't entirely mean anything.



If the people were really so interested in liberation and freedom, they'd be executing CEOs. That's actually not happening.



Again... if the people are so duty bound, then where is the revolution against privatization? Why is it all of a sudden a criminal offense when the Black Panthers militarize?



Who are these people that real revolutionaries have to be afraid of? Why does the anarchist, the communist, and any minority have to fear if they saw to it to mobilize for their own brand of liberation? Because they're not flying the white man's snake blanket. They're flying the red banner.



I don't care. The BOR doesn't mean anything to the anarchist or the communist or well.... any sort of political group. It's vapor words because when you interpret the BOR to have the right to say... defend only yourself and your property; I see that right to have the people militarize and take the law into their own hands to liberate themselves from corporate plunder. You and I both come to different conclusions to what the BOR means. And only one of us is right or the document doesn't even matter. I take it that the document doesn't matter.
Spoken like a true traitor.

Why is it you and others in your little socialist group want to bring up the issue of race when it doesn't factor into the discussion,or what I've been saying?

Is that all you've been programmed to do when you lack something meaningful to say?

Because I don't see rights as only applying to one group of a given skin color or gender,but you seem to.

I think such says far more about you than it does about me.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:49 PM   #29
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I think what really gets on my nerves is a lot of people's failure to see the distinction between the state and the government. Though that's not really their fault.




Yeah. I don't care. We haven't actually fought like that for freedom in a very very very long time. Those white men you worship aren't prophets and values amongst people change generation to generation. Hence why the BOR doesn't entirely mean anything.



If the people were really so interested in liberation and freedom, they'd be executing CEOs. That's actually not happening.



Again... if the people are so duty bound, then where is the revolution against privatization? Why is it all of a sudden a criminal offense when the Black Panthers militarize?



Who are these people that real revolutionaries have to be afraid of? Why does the anarchist, the communist, and any minority have to fear if they saw to it to mobilize for their own brand of liberation? Because they're not flying the white man's snake blanket. They're flying the red banner.



I don't care. The BOR doesn't mean anything to the anarchist or the communist or well.... any sort of political group. It's vapor words because when you interpret the BOR to have the right to say... defend only yourself and your property; I see that right to have the people militarize and take the law into their own hands to liberate themselves from corporate plunder. You and I both come to different conclusions to what the BOR means. And only one of us is right or the document doesn't even matter. I take it that the document doesn't matter.
You seem to see division of the people as a strength,I see it as a weakness.
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The thing is; the history of the USA has been written by privileges. It always has been We are not a post-racist or even post-patriarchal society. This is the key reason why the BOR doesn't mean much to a guy like me. The very structure of the state is based on protecting the privileges gained through history by imperialism. You refuse to acknowledge that despite the pretty words of a bunch of privileged white slave owners; the material experience of various peoples are entirely different and it's due to this imperialism.

So please. Spare us your so called racial blindness and your gender blindness. We aren't even close to reaching the point of the rainbow nation.

But I'm wasting my breath. Anyone who wants to spar with Deadman; be my guest. I'm off to play some Zelda.
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Get a load of this guy.
Get a load of yourself.

I haven't said one word about one race or one gender being needed for the B.O.R. to apply to an individual.

You have.

I haven't tried to divide people into different groups.

Because I know that division of the people means weakness for the people,and adds strength to those that want complete control over all of us.
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The thing is; the history of the USA has been written by privileges. It always has been We are not a post-racist or even post-patriarchal society. This is the key reason why the BOR doesn't mean much to a guy like me. The very structure of the state is based on protecting the privileges gained through history by imperialism. You refuse to acknowledge that despite the pretty words of a bunch of privileged white slave owners; the material experience of various peoples are entirely different and it's due to this imperialism.

So please. Spare us your so called racial blindness and your gender blindness. We aren't even close to reaching the point of the rainbow nation.

But I'm wasting my breath. Anyone who wants to spar with Deadman; be my guest. I'm off to play some Zelda.
You're right it isn't a post racist society,because people like yourself keep bringing race into a discussion where it doesn't belong,race shouldn't matter in this day and age,but people like yourself can't stand the thought of everyone having the same rights because you want to be one of the privileged few so you can tell others how to live their lives the way you want them to,instead of the way they choose to do so.

Because people like yourself are authoritarian at the core and seek to control others by any means.

That's why you attack the B.O.R and those that defend it, because it applies to all citizens of this nation instead of a select few.

It is that sort of cognative dissonance that allows depots to take power and murder mass numbers of innocent men,women,and children.
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And my point is proven by your own words.
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I'd almost be tempted to support the GOP; just so they can put on some hardcore austerity measures... so your disability would get cut and your foodstamps would get cut, so you'd frickin starve to death.

But even that's just too much. So please. Just kill yourself.
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I'd almost be tempted to support the GOP; just so they can put on some hardcore austerity measures... so your disability would get cut and your foodstamps would get cut, so you'd frickin starve to death.

But even that's just too much. So please. Just kill yourself.
Awww....what's the matter is lil' Stalin upset?

Are you going to cry now?

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I just want to point out that my brown skid-marked underwear that was issued to me in basic training did more for this country then Deadman. My fucking reflective belt has more time in service. My god damned boot strings have sacrificed more.
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I just want to point out that my brown skid-marked underwear that was issued to me in basic training did more for this country then Deadman. My fucking reflective belt has more time in service. My god damned boot strings have sacrificed more.
And none of that makes any of my points less valid.
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That's true.

The fact that they're wrong is what makes your points less valid.
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That's true.

The fact that they're wrong is what makes your points less valid.
Besides saying "Your points are wrong",Can you offer some proof to show how they would be wrong?
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Miss Absynthe, I don't think I ever thanked you for posting that awesome discussion flow chart, I've been using it regularly and its really helped me to avoid getting too entrenched in futile pseudo-conversations with smug, ignorant assholes.
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Miss Absynthe, I don't think I ever thanked you for posting that awesome discussion flow chart, I've been using it regularly and its really helped me to avoid getting too entrenched in futile pseudo-conversations with smug, ignorant assholes.
Instead you want to be a smug ignorant asshole by trying to get a response from me and then show a "Post ignored" message as your next response in a childish attempt to troll me,because you can't be bothered to look at a document that has been around for hundreds of years that you could use to make a case to benefit yourself and others.
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Aren't you supposed to be dead by now or something? I don't know what it is you're talking about in this thread, but you probably should have shot yourself by now, because at this point you're just wasting resources.

I mean hell, the original Kentucky men were frontiersmen and Indian fighters. You're a living beach ball who literally faps to firearms trolling a gothic website without any goths on it.

How far we have fallen...
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aren't you supposed to be dead by now or something? I don't know what it is you're talking about in this thread, but you probably should have shot yourself by now, because at this point you're just wasting resources.

I mean hell, the original kentucky men were frontiersmen and indian fighters. You're a living beach ball who literally faps to firearms trolling a gothic website without any goths on it.

How far we have fallen... Dmw_05 says: You haven't fallen far enough stickboy....btw how did the whole occupy movement pan out for you....you know with being denied the right to speak because of your gender and race,until others had a turn to speak their peace....even though you said you and konn were first in line....not too well i guess. I'm sticking around to watch this place go even further down the tubes and have a good laugh when and where i can.
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Aren't you supposed to be dead by now or something? I don't know what it is you're talking about in this thread, but you probably should have shot yourself by now, because at this point you're just wasting resources.

I mean hell, the original Kentucky men were frontiersmen and Indian fighters. You're a living beach ball who literally faps to firearms trolling a gothic website without any goths on it.

How far we have fallen...
Tigers should have eaten him by now. Fucker must be so rotund that diabetes can't even kill him because he probably ate that too.

He is an organic machine that produces shit. I don't think he can do anything else.
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Tigers should have eaten him by now. Fucker must be so rotund that diabetes can't even kill him because he probably ate that too.

He is an organic machine that produces shit. I don't think he can do anything else.
Awwww....little authoritarian need a nap?

Poor little dipshit.

Just cuddle with your marxist safety blanket,and when you wake up it'll be time to finger paint,and then you can a have cookie and a juice box.

Now go on and lay down on your nap mat.
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Yeah. Which kind of brings up the rest of my point. The more people have to fight for their rights, the less important an agreed upon list of rights by some ancient dudes becomes.

The world is changing and I kind of see the BOR standing in the way or being a distraction to achieving more rights for the people.

Honestly, I still don't understand why people are so opposed to marriage equality. It doesn't really add up cause I am sure they have the sense to see why it's at least fair.
And people with your mindset are not the solution but the problem.

Because if rights are not exercised and fought for things become static,and we get what we have now,with an ever growing federal government that has an ever growing lust for power and control.

Because people like yourself want to get rid of said rights instead of build upon them.

And people like yourself are what give rise to despots.
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He said adding rights. And if you knew him you'd know he's actually doing shit, not just complaining.
You don't understand his point, like you fail to understand most things.
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