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nosunshine 11-13-2007 10:44 AM

humor me
 
my principal wants to know from more Goths than just me,do you think its more satanic, or christian?

Delkaetre 11-13-2007 11:02 AM

Bit of a naive question, goth's not about religion.
There are a lot of Christian goths, and some Satanic goths as well. Why not look up the interview that an American news network did with Voltaire? It's on YouTube. It would be a good one for your principal to watch.

Drake Dun 11-13-2007 11:04 AM

Do not answer that question. The very fact that it was posed to you reveals an agenda that you should not feed.

Drake

Renatus 11-13-2007 11:35 AM

Hmm you live over near Ft. Mccoy. Fortunately I've been over there quite a few times due to my father's military career. Perhaps on my next visit up there I could look into both explaining it to the Pincipal and for your sake drake looking to see if she is legitimate with her questions.

Breathless Horror 11-13-2007 12:29 PM

Goth has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Simple as that.

LordAvon 11-13-2007 12:33 PM

As the others have said, Goth culture has nothing to do with religion.
I can see why people may think that due to the use of certain symbols and even certain references in songs, but at the end of the day, it's not about religion.

DarkPrayer 11-13-2007 01:36 PM

Goth is hardly a religion. It never will be, I hope.

~onyxmoon~ 11-13-2007 01:46 PM

wow that was a stupid question for him to ask.
let me guess he thinks that being goth makes you satanic??

dark_dragon_of_ice 11-13-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ~onyxmoon~
wow that was a stupid question for him to ask.
let me guess he thinks that being goth makes you satanic??

Why are you guessing.. you can see the dam post he made yourself!!!

DarkPrayer 11-13-2007 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ~onyxmoon~
wow that was a stupid question for him to ask.
let me guess he thinks that being goth makes you satanic??

No need to guess onyxmoon. It should be very obvious. I wonder if nosunshine knows that Satanism has nothing to do with Satan.

DarkPrayer 11-13-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dark_dragon_of_ice
Why are you guessing.. you can see the dam post he made yourself!!!

And all the other damn posts as well.

GothicChristian 11-13-2007 05:18 PM

Goths are of all different religions, and it annoys me so that many people think of it as a religion thing. It's called a subculture, because it's missing pieces needed to be a culture. If we had a set religion, then we'd be a full blown culture.

Graveyard.Crow 11-13-2007 05:30 PM

Or a cult. You know, whatever.

nosunshine 11-14-2007 07:37 AM

hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life

StasisInDarkness 11-14-2007 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nosunshine
hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life

No, dear, the meaning of life is 42.

gothicusmaximus 11-14-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nosunshine
hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life

Why is everyone always trying to twist goth into some kind of philosophy or creed concerning the meaning of life?
Some people maintain this belief that goth=nihilism or goth=existentialism, which simply isn't true. Sure, one can be a goth and a nihilist or a goth and an existentialist, but regarding oneself as a member of the subculture certainly doesn't necessitate adherence to one of those mentalities- one can just as easily be a goth and a scientologist. Some nihilists, particularly grim existentialists, or generally depressed folk may dress in black or somewhat gothic raiment in order to express their attitude toward life, but that has nothing to do with Goth.
A goth is a fan of gothic rock.

badteccy 11-14-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nosunshine
my principal wants to know from more Goths than just me,do you think its more satanic, or christian?

More Pastafarian than anything.

le_revenant 11-14-2007 01:15 PM

Better to be an informative person, able to dispense information to the ignorant masses than to maintain silence and make it seem like there's something to hide about the genre.

As its been mentioned, Goth has nothing to do with religion. If anything one could consider it "a philosophy" or "an outlook" but not a religion. Still if they think its a Satanic thing have him look up "gothicchristianity" on Google. {I would have put the hot link on here but this board's software keeps freaking out about my being a newb to this board & having URLs on here.}

If Goths share anything at face-value with Christianity its early-Christianity's persecution history!

Now go tell yonder principal to get himself a copy of Voltaire's "What is Goth?" from Barnes & Noble using his educator's discount card & read it. If there are any further questions, you're available to help dispense the info! :D

Crying_Crimson_Tears 11-14-2007 01:18 PM

I'll repeat what others have said.

Goth is not about religion.

So tell your principal that.

DarkPrayer 11-14-2007 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crying_Crimson_Tears
I'll repeat what others have said.

Goth is not about religion.

So tell your principal that.

*nods in agreement*

DarkPrayer 11-14-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nosunshine
hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life

Liar. L-I-A-R.

badteccy 11-14-2007 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Crying_Crimson_Tears
I'll repeat what others have said.

Goth is not about religion.

So tell your principal that.

Yea, it's a lifestyle amirite?

StasisInDarkness 11-14-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
Why is everyone always trying to twist goth into some kind of philosophy or creed concerning the meaning of life?
Some people maintain this belief that goth=nihilism or goth=existentialism, which simply isn't true. Sure, one can be a goth and a nihilist or a goth and an existentialist, but regarding oneself as a member of the subculture certainly doesn't necessitate adherence to one of those mentalities- one can just as easily be a goth and a scientologist. Some nihilists, particularly grim existentialists, or generally depressed folk may dress in black or somewhat gothic raiment in order to express their attitude toward life, but that has nothing to do with Goth.
A goth is a fan of gothic rock.


Well said...although, in my naive and quixotic desire for increased literacy amongst humans, I maintain that goth is indeed about the gothic literature...

Yeah, I'm looking at you, Henry James!

d.Nox 11-14-2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
A goth is a fan of gothic rock.

Isn't that a bit simplistic?

I mean, there are people who like gothic rock, but who don't claim to be (nor would be considered by others) "goth." My wife is an example of this sort of person.

Also, there are people who are, in every other way, as goth as they come, but just don't like that particular genre of music, preferring instead one of the "goth-friendly" genres (industrial, futurepop, what-have-you).

While the music is central to the definition of the subculture as a whole, it plays a widely varying role in the lives of the people within that culture.

Crying_Crimson_Tears 11-14-2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPrayer
Liar. L-I-A-R.

I must say, I agree.


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