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11-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: hillsboro,wisconsin
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humor me
my principal wants to know from more Goths than just me,do you think its more satanic, or christian?
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11-13-2007, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London
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Bit of a naive question, goth's not about religion.
There are a lot of Christian goths, and some Satanic goths as well. Why not look up the interview that an American news network did with Voltaire? It's on YouTube. It would be a good one for your principal to watch.
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11-13-2007, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Do not answer that question. The very fact that it was posed to you reveals an agenda that you should not feed.
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11-13-2007, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Back in Wisconsin(thinking about invading the south)
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Hmm you live over near Ft. Mccoy. Fortunately I've been over there quite a few times due to my father's military career. Perhaps on my next visit up there I could look into both explaining it to the Pincipal and for your sake drake looking to see if she is legitimate with her questions.
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11-13-2007, 12:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Goth has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Simple as that.
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11-13-2007, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hereford, UK
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As the others have said, Goth culture has nothing to do with religion.
I can see why people may think that due to the use of certain symbols and even certain references in songs, but at the end of the day, it's not about religion.
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11-13-2007, 01:36 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: In a place covered in darkness but filled with only good people
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Goth is hardly a religion. It never will be, I hope.
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11-13-2007, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: in my own lil fantasys involving vampires! naahh i live in vermont..unfortunatly.
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wow that was a stupid question for him to ask.
let me guess he thinks that being goth makes you satanic??
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11-13-2007, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 951
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Originally Posted by ~onyxmoon~
wow that was a stupid question for him to ask.
let me guess he thinks that being goth makes you satanic??
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Why are you guessing.. you can see the dam post he made yourself!!!
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11-13-2007, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: In a place covered in darkness but filled with only good people
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Originally Posted by ~onyxmoon~
wow that was a stupid question for him to ask.
let me guess he thinks that being goth makes you satanic??
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No need to guess onyxmoon. It should be very obvious. I wonder if nosunshine knows that Satanism has nothing to do with Satan.
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11-13-2007, 01:51 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: In a place covered in darkness but filled with only good people
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Originally Posted by dark_dragon_of_ice
Why are you guessing.. you can see the dam post he made yourself!!!
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And all the other damn posts as well.
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11-13-2007, 05:18 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 423
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Goths are of all different religions, and it annoys me so that many people think of it as a religion thing. It's called a subculture, because it's missing pieces needed to be a culture. If we had a set religion, then we'd be a full blown culture.
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11-13-2007, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Canada, BC
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Or a cult. You know, whatever.
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11-14-2007, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: hillsboro,wisconsin
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hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life
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11-14-2007, 07:39 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bard College
Posts: 256
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Originally Posted by nosunshine
hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life
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No, dear, the meaning of life is 42.
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11-14-2007, 11:45 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,687
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Originally Posted by nosunshine
hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life
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Why is everyone always trying to twist goth into some kind of philosophy or creed concerning the meaning of life?
Some people maintain this belief that goth=nihilism or goth=existentialism, which simply isn't true. Sure, one can be a goth and a nihilist or a goth and an existentialist, but regarding oneself as a member of the subculture certainly doesn't necessitate adherence to one of those mentalities- one can just as easily be a goth and a scientologist. Some nihilists, particularly grim existentialists, or generally depressed folk may dress in black or somewhat gothic raiment in order to express their attitude toward life, but that has nothing to do with Goth.
A goth is a fan of gothic rock.
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11-14-2007, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In Your Pants, PA.
Posts: 1,918
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Originally Posted by nosunshine
my principal wants to know from more Goths than just me,do you think its more satanic, or christian?
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More Pastafarian than anything.
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11-14-2007, 01:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Dead Center, TX
Posts: 124
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Better to be an informative person, able to dispense information to the ignorant masses than to maintain silence and make it seem like there's something to hide about the genre.
As its been mentioned, Goth has nothing to do with religion. If anything one could consider it "a philosophy" or "an outlook" but not a religion. Still if they think its a Satanic thing have him look up "gothicchristianity" on Google. {I would have put the hot link on here but this board's software keeps freaking out about my being a newb to this board & having URLs on here.}
If Goths share anything at face-value with Christianity its early-Christianity's persecution history!
Now go tell yonder principal to get himself a copy of Voltaire's "What is Goth?" from Barnes & Noble using his educator's discount card & read it. If there are any further questions, you're available to help dispense the info!
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11-14-2007, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Icy Forest of New England
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I'll repeat what others have said.
Goth is not about religion.
So tell your principal that.
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11-14-2007, 01:31 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: In a place covered in darkness but filled with only good people
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Originally Posted by Crying_Crimson_Tears
I'll repeat what others have said.
Goth is not about religion.
So tell your principal that.
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*nods in agreement*
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11-14-2007, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: In a place covered in darkness but filled with only good people
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Originally Posted by nosunshine
hey watever,just asking oppions,me personaly,i know many goths,some think of it as a cultural thing,some think of it as a demonic satan outlook,then there are the christianic Goths that run around and try to be "good",but me personaly, i dont think of it any other way than the meaning of life
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Liar. L-I-A-R.
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11-14-2007, 02:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In Your Pants, PA.
Posts: 1,918
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Originally Posted by Crying_Crimson_Tears
I'll repeat what others have said.
Goth is not about religion.
So tell your principal that.
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Yea, it's a lifestyle amirite?
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11-14-2007, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Bard College
Posts: 256
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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
Why is everyone always trying to twist goth into some kind of philosophy or creed concerning the meaning of life?
Some people maintain this belief that goth=nihilism or goth=existentialism, which simply isn't true. Sure, one can be a goth and a nihilist or a goth and an existentialist, but regarding oneself as a member of the subculture certainly doesn't necessitate adherence to one of those mentalities- one can just as easily be a goth and a scientologist. Some nihilists, particularly grim existentialists, or generally depressed folk may dress in black or somewhat gothic raiment in order to express their attitude toward life, but that has nothing to do with Goth.
A goth is a fan of gothic rock.
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Well said...although, in my naive and quixotic desire for increased literacy amongst humans, I maintain that goth is indeed about the gothic literature...
Yeah, I'm looking at you, Henry James!
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11-14-2007, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Happy Valley, Utah
Posts: 283
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Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus
A goth is a fan of gothic rock.
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Isn't that a bit simplistic?
I mean, there are people who like gothic rock, but who don't claim to be (nor would be considered by others) "goth." My wife is an example of this sort of person.
Also, there are people who are, in every other way, as goth as they come, but just don't like that particular genre of music, preferring instead one of the "goth-friendly" genres (industrial, futurepop, what-have-you).
While the music is central to the definition of the subculture as a whole, it plays a widely varying role in the lives of the people within that culture.
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11-14-2007, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Icy Forest of New England
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Originally Posted by DarkPrayer
Liar. L-I-A-R.
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I must say, I agree.
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