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Originally Posted by KontanKarite
Do you think the Palestinians would do anything differently if the shoe was on the other foot?
People rarely want justice and peace, they want revenge. Especially if the hate is this strong on both sides.
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Actually, the Palestinians DID show evidence of willingness to do things differently. After the Holocaust, some of the survivors went from Europe to Palestine in ships bearing signs that said, "we survived the Holocaust - God's wrath upon you if you fire at us." And so they didn't. Are we, in the First World, that civilized about illegal immigration into OUR country?
Besdies which, that's a weak argument. ALL humanity is capable of behaving like the Israelis, and many nations do so every day. You can't just say, "but they'd do the same to us if the shoe was on the other foot", and expect that to suffice.
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Originally Posted by KontanKarite
I'm simply saying that just because one is getting the tee total shit kicked out of them doesn't make them innocent of anything they would have done anyway.
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No, it doesn't. It makes them victims of injustice, though, if they're getting the living shit kicked out of them for a bullshit reason. Like, say, "the Bible says this land is destined to belong to us. Get moving. We'll be right behind you with weapons, though, in case you look at us wrong. We'll also occasionally storm your civilian territories, just to make sure."
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Originally Posted by PhenomenalTranquility
There is so much said in this thread, and I don't feel like making a reply to each different subject. Hmm, well, I'll give you one fact: our current prime minister is a rapist and an asshole, our general suckass, but we have some of the most decent politicans ever to grace this world, very rabin-like. (I know it's very general.. but.. you know..)
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Fun for you. If only this was reflected in government policy.
Also, where's the fact you promised? I just heard opinion there.