Dragon Age 2

I would kill Zevron for being gay.

[Saya]

Its been established that you're too much of a frat boy to seriously play DA:O

I think it's been established that you're an insufferable WOMAN who can't make any sort of decision to choose a side. Get with the mages and be done with it.

WOMAN.

[Saya]

I did! Somewhat begrudgingly. I miss the old Anders, I hate that he won't ever talk about anything else besides how oppressed the mages are. And then he goes on to be mean to Merrill.

Anders is a fucking hero. Don't you EVER forget it. The man knew EXACTLY what needed to be done. If it were in your hands, the mages would have still been under the boot of the Chantry, you wishy washy mumble grumble...

Moral of the story, Saya. Talks aren't ALWAYS the solution to problems. You wanna make some changes, you gotta chop off a few heads. Get with the fucking program, girl.

[Saya]

My problem was that this game was pretty poorly written compared to DA:O and Awakenings. Everyone's so one note, its like I'm listening in to Crossfire every time party dialogue starts up. Unless Isabela is in the party. Then I feel like I'm listening in on your mom's conversations.

Anders isn't so much of a hero when he wants to sell Fenris back into slavery.

Revolutions don't need saints, Saya.

Funny. I think about you as Merrill. Awkward, weird, nonsensical, and a little dimwitted. But charming. Merrill still has some saving graces.

[Saya]

She wasn't dimwitted. She understood, unlike Anders, that there are no good spirits. She was the most sensible mage in the party.

And completely socially awkward and dumb as shit when it came to humans.

Being fascinated by crime. Sounds a whole hell of a lot like something you'd say. You two do seem to be fascinated by stupid shit. :-/

[Saya]

She's absolutely foreign and sheltered. When I moved to the city I assumed everyone wanted to mug me and rarely left my dorm.

Although they exaggerated that DA2. She was more confident in DA:O

Yep. Sounds about the same. Point. Proven.

[Saya]

So, you totally boned Merrill, didn't you?

Immediately I find her repulsive because of her personality. Isabella was far more satisfying and Potato-face Arlene or whatever the fuck her name is can go die in a fire.

Anders is where it's at.

Can't dig on Merrill at all. It's like trying to fuck an insect with the social skills of a praying mantis.

[Saya]

Hahahaa, of course you chugged Anders' cock.

Mother fucker's the only one half worth a shit other than Isabella.

[Saya]

I handed Isabela over to the Qunari. What a headache she was.

You would. Obviously threatened by her dominant sexual prowess and free spiritedness. It's understandable. It's typical of a gender-confused feminazi.

[Saya]

It was more because I knew what they were trying to do with her. Since you didn't play DA:O, this is what she looked like in that game:



It was very obvious that she was there purely for sex appeal, which goes back to what I was saying about everyone being one noted. Anders does nothing but bitch and whine about Templars, Fenris does nothing but bitch and whine about what the slavers did to him, Merrill is the cute one, Isabela the sex appeal. With Merrill and Isabela in your party you're very much walking arund with the virgin/whore dichotomy. I'm pretty sure I saw an interview with one of the writers where she said thats pretty much what it is.

In the first game, when you meet Isabela, she kicks some ass, and you can learn the duelist class from her, by besting her in a game of cards, or if you have a high enough persuasion skill, sleep with her. You can invite Zevran or Leliana. Its a funny part of the game, but it seems that the point that she can get into a foursome with you has completely coloured her character in this game. Morrigan was sexual and dominant, but she was very much her own person. Zevran was the whore to Leliana's not so virgin, but he was many other things as well. Here there's no complexity, everyone wears their entire character out on their sleeves. Carver says every five minutes "I FEEL LIKE I'M WALKING IN YOUR SHADOW." There's no subtly.

In the first game, I felt bad for being a douche. In this game, I'm betraying an idea, not people.

[Sir Canvas Corpsey]

Merrill is adorable and ten times the Blood Mage Jowan was. xD

I turn into Merrill when I try to flirt in real life.

[Saya]

Yeaaaaah Merrill made blood magic a little more understandable. Did Jowan even give a reason why he became a blood mage?

[Sir Canvas Corpsey]

Nope, probably just Jowan being stupid Jowan as per usual. You can always find him flailing around in the giant chasm between his intentions and reality. Maybe the templars would have caught him sooner if we had told them that.

[Saya]

I made my Grey Warden a blood mage just to unlock all the specializations, but the Wardens had the reasoning that they'll use whatever it takes, and the Warden's Keep DLC expanded on that, so I felt like it was a solid choice. With Jowan its like "well I DO live in the Circle and Templars watch me 24/7, this is a good idea! Derp derp derp..."

[Despanan]

Originally Posted by Saya

She's absolutely foreign and sheltered. When I moved to the city I assumed everyone wanted to mug me and rarely left my dorm.

Although they exaggerated that DA2. She was more confident in DA:O

Merril was in DA:O ? Where? How did I miss her?

[Despanan]

Wow. Isabella got...ethnic in DA: 2. Which I suppose makes more sense. You'd definitely get a tan on a pirate ship.

Originally Posted by Saya

In the first game, when you meet Isabela, she kicks some ass, and you can learn the duelist class from her, by besting her in a game of cards, or if you have a high enough persuasion skill, sleep with her. You can invite Zevran or Leliana. Its a funny part of the game, but it seems that the point that she can get into a foursome with you has completely coloured her character in this game. Morrigan was sexual and dominant, but she was very much her own person. Zevran was the whore to Leliana's not so virgin, but he was many other things as well. Here there's no complexity, everyone wears their entire character out on their sleeves. Carver says every five minutes "I FEEL LIKE I'M WALKING IN YOUR SHADOW." There's no subtly.

You can also have a threesome with Alastair if you're a chick.

But yeah, I agree, there's FAR less subtlety and the characters/story are less complex. Basically the whole thing is dummed down...oh wait, I mean streamlined.

[Saya]

If you're a Dalish Warden, its the same group of Dalish elves as in DA2. She comes with you to find whatshisface, after you recover from your encounter from the mirror. She looks really different:



And acts completely different.

ETA: Tamlen! She goes with you to find Tamlen.