Judas was only playing his part in a greater play...

[Corpus_Draconis]

Well, now that a couple people have repeated me...

[flawed-mentality]

so this is were it is. Judas did understand jesus the best he was the most trusted and closest . It was only right that he did it, had he not done that all christans would be jew. if jesus didn't die then many of us would still have original sin. jesus was a higher being that spirit had to be freed from its body. judas did what he did caus it had to be done even though he didn't want to.

[Blushing Heliophobe]

Originally Posted by flawed-mentality

It was only right that he did it, had he not done that all christans would be jew.

How eloquently spoken. Are you infering that it's a bad thing to be Jewish?

[WolfMoon]

Originally Posted by flawed-mentality

so this is were it is. Judas did understand jesus the best he was the most trusted and closest . It was only right that he did it, had he not done that all christans would be jew. if jesus didn't die then many of us would still have original sin. jesus was a higher being that spirit had to be freed from its body. judas did what he did caus it had to be done even though he didn't want to.

What part of Stupid are you from?

Being Jewish would've been a bad thing how?

[flawed-mentality]

if you had cared to noticed ,I had naever said anything negetive about jewish people. Infact I would just like to say that I respect all religions as long as there based on good will.tolarance and the oppinion stands...without the sacrifice of christ what christens would there be.there would likely to be alot more of the jewish faith...Do you like the gnostics they have a pretty good idea

[Blushing Heliophobe]

If you had bothered to think a little more into your theory that...

It was only right that he did it, had he not done that all christans would be jew.

...you might have realized that those of the Christian faith were originally made up of Jew and Gentile. Now, it is possible to convert into Judaism but you pretty much are born into it. The majority of Christians today were not Jewish nor can they trace that in their family lines. Furthermore, early Christians that were Jewish still clung to their Jewish heritage. And if that weren't enough for you, let's see what Paul (the writer of almost all the Epistles in the New Testament) has to say about the difference between Jewish and Not Jewish when the people in Galatia were scratching their heads over their petty differences...

Galatians 3:27

For you are all children of God, through faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 If you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to promise.

Of course, that was just what Paul said concerning making a big deal over our differences, but it still stands that no, if Christ hadn't died all Christians would NOT be Jews.

They'd probably just be lawless heathens praising Caesar and having a grand time dancing sky-clad in the light of the full moon.

That wouldn't be so bad, now, would it?

[deep insight]

God hates nothing more than treachery

nothing happens unless god let it

judus may have been play his part but it doesnt mean that it is the origional part or path that was chosen for him for the start when he was first put back on earth or first created for i know it the decsion you make for your self which interpreats the rest your souls walk
he did i think and from his actions i know veir off his correct or straight path,part to play or walk.

[Edward]

The bible almost never mentions Judas, and when they do, they bash him pretty bad, when Mary annoints jesus with a perfume it says

But one of his disciples, Judas Iscarisot, who was later to betray him, objected, "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a years wages." He did not say this beause he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

That can be found in John:12.

And, just so you know, the book of John was written somewhere between 90 and 100 A.D., about 70 years after the death, John wasn't even likely one of the original 12, as the life expectancy was not very old back in the bible times, so how would he even know Judas was taking money for himself. No one likes Judas because it's more or less his fault Jesus died, which brings me to my next point.

Had Jesus not died, the religion would not have been made, or not be so big, Judas could easily have been doing gods work by betraying Jesus, because, for the religion to work, Jesus had to die, making him the worlds biggest Martyr, and rise from the grave, showing he was in fact divine. That was the plan all along, if you ask me, Judas jump started the religion.