they found out?

[in the eyes of sorrow]

i'm not carving. sorry! not doing anything. sorry again!

[Velvet Rain Drops]

Originally Posted by Circle V

Weren't you defending him a few moments ago, Velvet? If you want to dignify his whining with a response, at least make it one that is itself worth reading.

I wasn't defending him i was defending others out there that are sad because of people like him. Posers!

[British Psychiatrist]

Ok ive been asked by a very close friend of mine to take a look at this chat forum, ive dealt very closely with alot of complex cases regarding this type of problem. each case is different and can not be compaired to another with reasoning. NIGHTFANG i would like to know your academic qualifications that tells not only myself but others on here that you are qualified to make such judgements and comments as you so have. if anyone should require any help with a problem you are more than welcome to email my personal office at *****@***.*** and i am more than happy to help or answer questions concerning any problems that you feel you may have with self harm. Anyone that is qualified to make clear cut statements would not put them in statements such as NIGHTFANG's postings. Thank you all for your time. Dr P Thorne (Europe Group Psychiatry)

[Shadowed Aegis]

Sorrow, I think what people are trying to get across is that:

1. This is a public forum, and that if you really didn't want replies to your rant, that there are much more easier ways to assure no replies than to post on here.

2. That while cutting isn't always a cry for attention, the fact that you cut a word implies that perhaps it was a cry for attention (which very probably could have been an unconscious one at that).

3. People won't leave you alone about it. Guidance counselors, gym teachers, and parents have a JOB to care about you, and while you may not want them getting involved or whatever, the fact is that even if you and your parents weren't on talking terms or even hated each other's guts, they would STILL care about you because you ARE their daughter.

The reason for the less-than-empathic posts? People here don't like new people coming on and crying out for attention/acceptance. Now you may have not intended that, but the fact is that was what it appeared to be doing, and appearances matter alot. Continuing the argument with everyone also helps to cement in people's mind that it was nothing more than a cry for attention, so I'd just suggest perhaps dropping it and moving on?

Just some thoughts.

[Circle V]

That's an inventive name. I almost believe it.

One would assume that a psychiatrist would be educated, yet your post is mostly incoherent and completely off topic. Either fuck off or give us proof that you are indeed what you claim to be.

[Shadowed Aegis]

Originally Posted by British Psychiatrist

Ok ive been asked by a very close friend of mine to take a look at this chat forum, ive dealt very closely with alot of complex cases regarding this type of problem. each case is different and can not be compaired to another with reasoning. NIGHTFANG i would like to know your academic qualifications that tells not only myself but others on here that you are qualified to make such judgements and comments as you so have. if anyone should require any help with a problem you are more than welcome to email my personal office at Philip.thorne.tg@europe.com and i am more than happy to help or answer questions concerning any problems that you feel you may have with self harm. Anyone that is qualified to make clear cut statements would not put them in statements such as NIGHTFANG's postings. Thank you all for your time. Dr P Thorne (Europe Group Psychiatry)

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Introduction thread! Not here! Nightfang isn't even being discussed in this thread, and solitications for people to come to you with any of their "problems" should be going in Shill, not Whining.

[Velvet Rain Drops]

Night-Fang. Who is Night-Fang?

[in the eyes of sorrow]

circle...
he doesn't need to give you proof. as long as i know and he knows the truth thats all that matters. that goes with everything else in this topic.
leave him alone. thats all you need to do. leave him alone.
he didn't do anything except post here. which is what your doing.
i think you really need to get off his back.
he doesn't need to show proof of anything. don't be mad that he has a phd and you don't... don't be mad that he was right and your well...not.

[AlKilyu]

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Oh, shit... I had really hoped you were gone. I figured you lost interest because no one likes you.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4...rtowned4vq.jpg

[Velvet Rain Drops]

Sorrow, How old are you???

[Shadowed Aegis]

Actually he did do something. He made his first post in here, off topic, instead of the introduction thread. Besides, you don't know (unless he's you and/or you're the friend he mentioned) any more that he is who he says he is than any of us. Blindly assuming someone's telling the truth on a forum without knowing the person is irresponsible at best.

[Circle V]

He was right? All he said was something incoherant about nightfang, who, as far as I know, has yet to post here.

He *does* need to give me proof. Forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical when a "British Psychologist" conveniently drops in, says something incomprehensible about nightfang, and gives an email address whose parent page has nothing to do with psychology.

How exactly do you know him? You're defending him so much that I'm tempted to believe that you're related somehow.

[Shadowed Aegis]

Hey he wasn't that bad. He at least managed to use capital letters in appropriate places...mostly.

[Velvet Rain Drops]

Originally Posted by Xnguela

I do a better fake-psychologist post than this guy... At least I'm fucking legible.

Any one could do a better fake-psychologist post than that guy!
Xng you would do the best fake-psychologist post.

[Circle V]

Mine would be ok, too! I'd make a little corporate logo and everything!

[Shadowed Aegis]

Yea, anyone could do a better job. At least the guy could have used a REAL pyschiatric institution and a non-free email address service.

[Velvet Rain Drops]

You'rs would be very good to Circle V.

[Velvet Rain Drops]

I'm bored, I think I'm going to go.

[Circle V]

You don't need to post that, but ok.

[horrorgirl]

Originally Posted by in the eyes of sorrow

wow ok today sucked fuckin douche! i don't care if anyone reads this or posts to it i don't give a fuck but i want/need to rant.
ok i'm a cutter. and last night i cut my leg. i sliced and carved "death" into it several times.
my gym teacher found out today. went to my fuckin counsler. so last period i go down to her office and deal with her for a fucking hour. crying my eyes out because she was gunna call my parents. she tried counceling me through it but son of a bitch! she didn't udnerstand!!! she tried comforting me blahblahblah.
fuck it
so she calls my parents. my dad acts like he ain't mad. she didn't get ahold of my mom. my dad comes picks me up takes me home then we stat talking bout it. my mom gets home bout an hour later takes me into the back bedroom orders me to strip down so she can check my wounds then gets all sad and teary eyed because "her baby is in pain"
i know my parents love me and care but why won't people just leave me the fuck alone?!!?!?!?!?! i just wnat to be left alone esp. by my parents!


anyway yah thanks i don't care if anyone replys or whatever i just needed tos ay it.

Real cutters,and I have known a few,don't brag online about when they cut. The only people who make posts like this are kids who think it's cool to pretend they are a cutter. Pathetic.

[Demonista_Ravenesque]

Originally Posted by Santarea

Yeah. Kinda lik ewhen the lesbian chic fad was over and I had to dump my girlfriend for a Latino Metro-sexual...

Just kidding.

The thing about the attention whore cutters, you know the "Look at this, look at what I am doing to myself!!... Leave me alone! I don't want the attention" fucktards, is this:

Much like posting about self perceived, false, and undiagnosed condition of psychosis (IE- "I am so weird/crazy/goth, they want to lock me up"... Pul-leeeese) insults those with actual mental conditions- attention whore cutters detract from the actual issue of real cutters.

Funny, how no one claims to have Gothy gonorohhea or cerebrel Palsy. I guess those conditions aren't *romantic* in the immature eyes. (No offense to anyone, just making a point).

The last part of what Santarea said reminded me of a time a friend and I walked into Utopia (A Rock Records Store) and there we spotted a whole pack of them, rabid and snivelling, hunting for attention.....babygoths.
Exchanging looks, showing off their cuts and bragging about mental disorders.

I and my friend reacted in a way that any other Red Bull filled cybergoth looking teens would have reacted. We pulled out some toothpicks, confronted the infants and started scratching at our skin, showing how hardcore we were.

Then they asked what the hell was wrong with us, we simply answered:

"We're mentally ill too! GOTHIC ADD!!!!" And we ended that slight quarrel with a quick, and somewhat ceremonious pour of Pepsi upon the young 'uns.

Obviously an immature spur of the moment situation, but we simply couldn't help but express our disgust towards such scum.

It offends me when I see little twats like them bragging about how goth they are using those lame excuses, have they no shame or consideration whatsoever for those who actually suffer?

You know what? In a few years time, why don't you show your cuts and scars to your boss? I'm sure he'll give you your job back after seeing what he's done.

While your at it, why don't you tell your landlord about the voices in your head? I'm sure he'll give you sympathy.

Oh, and don't forget to orally pleasure a cactus....Cuts in your mouth are soooo hardcore.

To put it simply:

It's people like you who waste the world's supply of doctors, the world's supply of counsellors and caring parents, the world's fucking supply of prozac and other chemical paraphernalia. Do everyone a favour and grow the fuck up.

Still refuse to grow up? Here's a tip on how to be hardcore.

The next time you're in the middle of your living room while your parents are inviting you to join them in a game of monopoly, and you're *secretly* cutting, Cut deeper.

Not only does it leave a deep cut, but you could die. By dying, you're helping us rid the world of parasitic whores like you. That's a good deal for both of us, we don't have to have you around, and you can have your hardcore death.

Accept it?

Now be gone...

Be fucking gone.

[in the eyes of sorrow]

i'm 15
yes i'm the friend he mentioned
no none of you guys could do a better "fake one" because that one wasn't fake.
the whole nightfang thing. he messed and i assume he miss read xnguela's siggy. cause at the end he quotes night fang.
excuse him for makinga fucking mistake.
it was his first post yah. he wasn't really trying to introduce himself he aws trying to get a point across taht none of you are legitably able to post what you have.
leave the poor guy alone alright? this isn't about him

[Circle V]

Go us! Go Dr. Santarea!

Your attempts at deception are pitifully weak. If he's really a licensed psychologist, remind me never to look for counselling in England. I really could make a better fake psychologist than he makes a real one. We aren't going to leave him alone because HE POSTED in OUR FORUM. When you post something, you can usually be sure that someone will read it and likely respond to it.

This isn't about him, true. This is about you, which brings me to my point:

Fuck off. We don't want you here.

[dreamforthedead]

How to be as goth as In the eyes of sorrow:
1) Look like Branden Lee in 'The Crow'
2) Run around yelling things like ' I want to DIE!! Theres no POINT!'. But make sure that everytime you see someone get close that you run over and show them your 'scars' (you know, the ones that got got when you fell off your oh-so-goth skateboard)
3) Cut yourself ith a sheet of paper. Papercuts are SO hardcore
4) Using the blood from the papercuts, write yourself a suicide note. then yell at your parents for finding it (Asif they couldve found it, in their room, on their bed, with big black writing on itsaying 'MY SUICIDE NOTE. READ ME')
3) Post onto ***********, gothic.net, etc about how the little green men that only you can see tell you to burn things. It doesnt matter if your new or not, just as long as you tell people.
4) Kill your parents for pretending to care, bloody conformists.
5) Go see your school councellour voluntarilly but tell you goth friends that 'they made you go'
6) Do something for your girl/boyfriend. Set fire to your school, then run to the cemetery and stab yourself to death with a spoon
and finally
6) Wear black, only black. and start smoking.

If we all did that, we'd all be as hardcore and as cool as sorrow.

[dreamforthedead]

You could be really hardcore and get the paper to roll tobacco in and then go into your backyard, and roll the freshly mowed grass in the paper and smoke that. My little brother does that lol