Sexuality

[edible_eye]

* i just want to be clear here *

i'm not making up rules nor am i saying that things have to change in any way, shape or form. i don't have that authority.

it's merely an observation i've made about a small percentage of pic content and thought it would be a good idea to remind everyone - not just ben although the olympics pics were what spawned my initial decision to say something - again, i thought it prudent to remind everyone to use good judgement in posting pics that might be construed as pornographic in nature, as well as using direct links to sites where pornography is the flavor of the day.

i don't think it's our responsibility to protect the chldren. i think that responsibility lies within their home, firmly at the feet of whatever adults have custody of said children. i think our collective responsibility lies within the context of the site rule that prohibits pornography to be posted - said pornography to be understood in terms of visual representations.

the same can be said of all rules on the site, including spelling, grammar, complete sentences, no leet speak, stalking members, pm'ing members without permission, etc. - rules that are reinforced constantly, thanx to the vigilance of members.

[joyslayer]

Well, yes. I think, I really don't know, and don't want to argue with someone who is right. I need sleep.

[edible_eye]

joy - you're way too friggin' cute.

... oh, and you have nice legs also.

[joyslayer]

*grins* You know, my cuteness and my legs are sitting here all in their lonesome...

Edible,

Some of what you speak of is censorship, but you also say *in so many words* we should censor our own selves, and I *really* truck with that idea. It’s why, in all my time here, I’ve ever only asked a moderator to intervene on my behalf (in the removal of my poetry) once, because that right was not afforded to me.

A state of existence by the people, for the people, is a beautiful thing…but then you get fucktards that want to come in and post snaggly toe porn, who generate a general air of bigotry, and then there’s the sycophants turned damn ugly, the cherubesque little youtes hungry for acceptance and like mindedness…so let’s not concentrate all the attention and make it about the chitlins, because…it’s about all of us, and what we, as a whole, consider acceptable.

Power to the people! Whop off your knobs!

Erg, no one will get that Ice Pirates reference, so I’ll throw out the freaking bone (no pun intended)

Sexuality, then, not porn, being the state of things, and what we do and do not want to expose the Joyslayers, Heir Ghost in the Frogs, the Punks, the wee little ones, to. Cause, in that matter, the simple fact is, the majority of the population (myself included) all got together and agreed it’s freaking inappropriate to talk dirty to you *there’s an 80’s rock reference for you, at no extra charge* and just because you may be curious I really don’t want the guilt of being the one to taint your synaptic receptors, and the fact of the matter is…many of you younguns aren’t forthright in disclosing information, do not care to police or censor yourselves…which is why an adults only arena would be nice.

There are aspects of sex I will discuss with kids, clinical aspects, cause and effect issues, things that pertain to, but do not taint or advocate the joy of monkeys, fans, or the use of petroleum based products for added viscosity.

Cause those aspects are reserved for adults only, dig. Bring on the adults only thread!

[joyslayer]

I still find fault in an adult only thread. I mean, there are countless underage people here who laugh when you say the word butt. But then there are others, people like Ambi, or me, who can handle, understand, and most likely relate to certain issues, questions, and statements in the "adult thread." I find it sort of discriminating against myself and others like me, that we would be cast out simply because of something we can not control. Plus, what is your definition of kids? Not to be a rude bitch or anything, but I have seen and been through many things that "kids" should not have to deal with. I have but one question, Should we not exclude people based on what they, themselves can truly handle, and not by simple numbers?

[swt&inc angel??]

unfortunatly, kids are exoposed to a lot more than adults like to think I was in second grade by the time I found out what sex was then probably knew what all of the toys and anything else most people think kids dont know about by the time I was in 8th grade. still I do think adult only threads should be there due to the fact that most kids do not completely grasp all aspects of sex expecaly (spelling sorry) bondage. so bring them on

Originally Posted by joyslayer

Not to be a rude bitch or anything, but I have seen and been through many things that "kids" should not have to deal with. I have but one question, Should we not exclude people based on what they, themselves can truly handle, and not by simple numbers?

You pretty much summed it all up with that statement, joy. You should not have seen or been through many things kids should not have to deal with. It’s not your fault, but ours. Would you, now having been there and done that, wish it on someone else? I don’t think you would, and I’d not procreate that sentiment in others of your ilk, it’s just.

Not.

Right.

Is an age limitation right? Not really, but it’s the best thing we have going, catches most of the things we’d separate us from them, of, and though it is discriminating, it is the best first line of defense.

*dreams of Xnguela's butt*

Hay, we have something in common, X!

...

K, I'm not laughing per say, more like--moaning, sighing, slapping in a she's finally 18 kind of way, you know...the chronological watch and everything, when all of g'net was waiting for you to turn of age?

Yeah, that's the good stuffs.

[Sanctus Dei]

As I'm mentally 12, I can fully understand Joy's pov.. I would be slightly off put by the idea that even though I react to every experience as an adult I'm barred from a particular room all of the sudden due solely to my age. I would feel I had earned the right to play ball with the big boys because I had shown the level of maturity that the others my age lacked which directly or indirectly brought about the said restricted area.
But..
I could also see the necessity of said room...

[Ben Lahnger]

You know, I understand the bigger discussion going on here, but I was really fine with it when edible_eye made the suggestion that I was walking too close to the line for his comfort.

I'm not sure how much we can debate the age apropriateness of content when maturity varies so much from person to person. I'm also not keen on observing an arbitrary number as a standard - the legal age of consent in the US is 18. I can't tell you how many 16 year olds are sexually active, but it's a lot. It seems silly in a way to tell them, okay kiddies, look away now ... you might see a naked BUTT! (That was for Joy and Xng)

Anyway, as I said, I was okay with the direction I received. With the exception of a few neanderthals that scrape their nuckles this way from time to time, this is a pretty decent bunch of people.

A friendly comment from time to time from a mod or another member should be enough to usually maintain a commonly acceptable standard. This issue has been dealt with in a mature way, without requiring an adults only area or policing of ages.

e_e talked to me ... I listened. It's simple.

Butt you're missing the big picture, Ben! We need an area where we can all drool over X's butt! We can't do that in said public arena :{

You don't want see the Xnguela butt? You really do, and Maels! Man, the guy's got an ass. Or Edible's massive, yummy Endorian moon chest? And, you really should have been around when Mrs. Maimy graced us with her prose of errotic delight, or the very first nearly nakey Wolfmoon pic...I'm saying, we need a forum for this stuff.

I need mah pornographic fix!

And we can't have that with a bunch of underaged...we just can't!

[winged_dreams]

Sexuality? Does that mean I can ask sex questions? >_<

I'm looking foward to that picture of xng's butt.

[Ben Lahnger]

I'm off the topic ... y'all can carry on.

I'm too busy laughing my ass off!

[Blushing Heliophobe]

Does this mean that if there's someone underage on this thread and we give them sex advice that we might get in trouble?

[edible_eye]

petitioning a minor for sex will get you in trouble. advice is a gray area, especially if trouble is generated from any advice given.

the bottom line - to everyone here - pay attention to pictures you post. if you need clarification on that - read above.

Originally Posted by TStone

Butt you're missing the big picture, Ben! We need an area where we can all drool over X's butt! We can't do that in said public arena :{

You don't want see the Xnguela butt? You really do, and Maels! Man, the guy's got an ass. Or Edible's massive, yummy Endorian moon chest? And, you really should have been around when Mrs. Maimy graced us with her prose of errotic delight, or the very first nearly nakey Wolfmoon pic...I'm saying, we need a forum for this stuff.

I need mah pornographic fix!

And we can't have that with a bunch of underaged...we just can't!

This post is filled with the kind of desperation I can really identify with. Kudos.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

You know what? there's a fabulous picture of my butt (clothed, of course) that I will be posting this weekend! Just for you guys!

It's in a pair of jeans, so not even remotely racy. But nice, still.

Ahhh the lovely Xng... I've been suffering from serious withdrawals deary. Please fix that ASAP.

Originally Posted by Sanctus Dei

As I'm mentally 12, I can fully understand Joy's pov.. I would be slightly off put by the idea that even though I react to every experience as an adult I'm barred from a particular room all of the sudden due solely to my age. I would feel I had earned the right to play ball with the big boys because I had shown the level of maturity that the others my age lacked which directly or indirectly brought about the said restricted area.
But..
I could also see the necessity of said room...

I say we carry on as EE suggested using our common sense about what we say to whom and taking a little extra care with what pictures are posted. Nothing really needs to change beyond that until such a time as the owners of the site say so or we get in trouble.

It's not that hard to figure out that this isn't really a site oriented for kids and responsible parents should be able to identify such. We already have good rules in place and even those of us that act immature all the time know where the line is. Those that don't will get handed their asses by members and edited by the mods.

End of line.

[Ben Lahnger]

Which is where I was 10 posts ago. Can we get back to 'Sexuality' now?

I'll start!

How much would you pay for sex?

Would it be worth 14 million dollars to you?

Well, the domain name sex.com just sold for that amount.
The article at Slashdot is HERE!

[Ben Lahnger]

I was roommates with an escort for a while ... and I got introduced to so many men (and a few women) who were willing to pay for it. I can understand that under certain circumstances (such as the fetish issue Xng mentions or in the case of people who genuinely do not want long term emotional attachments) then it probably is a good option.

If they are married or committed to a monogamous relationship, then it's the same thing as cheating and should be treated in the same way. If they are single or in an open relationship, I don't really have a problem with it.

However, I've never paid for it myself and never will. I just couldn't get aroused knowing that the reason my partner was doing it with me was because of money and no direct interest in me as a person.

[Wise Child]

Agreed. If I didn't want long-term commitment ... I'd have a one-night stand. Least that way, you know the person actually WANTS to sleep with you. Maybe it's an ego thing, but I'd feel like a tool paying someone.

[joyslayer]

I wouldn't pay for sex, I'd seduce the person

[Wise Child]

I don't know. If the person's a prostitute, you'd need a damn good pick-up line. They must have seen it all. Something a hell of a lot better than the usual "did it hurt" crap

I've never paid for sex - at least not directly. You know there's the old: "Sure honey. I'll do the dishes but it's going to cost you " I'm not sure if that counts but it's a great way to get rewarded for work you were going to have to do anyways. I recommend everyone try it.

Um... if I had a ton of cash, though, I'd pay for all kinds of things I wouldn't pay for now - not even necissarilly for me. I was watching Cathouse:The Series on HBO and a couple went to the 'Ranch and paid for the wife to have sex with their favorite porn star while he watched. I might be tempted to do something like that.