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Old 03-06-2007, 07:30 PM   #101
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That's a very interesting point, Kontan, and very true. I change my opinions (or rather, they evolve) almost every week. It's all part of coming to enlightenment. "I am the smartest man on earth, for I know nothing."
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:44 PM   #102
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Essentially, yes.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:49 PM   #103
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Well, I believe traditional Satanists DO worship the devil, LeVay's modern Church Of Satan satanists follow the Satanic bible. Which, of course, goes into detail of how his philosophy believes in Satan as a symbol, and not a truly existing figure. Also, for a schoolboy to understand it's the first word to come to mind regarding a devil-worshiper contray to the use of stereotype.
How can you say a Satanist worships the devil and then say that they don't think he truly exists? Satanists don't believe in anything. The just use the name to state how anti-God they are. Extreme Atheists with the need to belong, maybe? Did you just say the same thing? I'm not sure. And this has nothing to do with emo-ness. Ha.
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:57 PM   #104
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Well, back to the emo thing.

What are some emo bands I would hear on the radio or some of the mainstream ones?

I've been out of touch lately and am curious... I wanna investimagate dem tangs!!! lol
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:15 PM   #105
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I'd consider Fugazi, Embrace, and Rites of Spring some of the first (and therefore truest) emo bands. Surprisingly enough, they're all related! 0.0
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:14 PM   #106
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Most of you came to this thread thinking I am to rant about the mass of "emo" kids, and that you, too, can put your input in on how much you hate them. You were wrong, and I suggest you turn back now if you want to continue with the same mindset about emo kids that you currently have.

Emo is a term coined from the original phrase, Emotive Hardcore. It started out as a branch from the hardcore punk genre, beginning with the bands Rites of Spring and Embrace. The band Rites of Spring surprisingly sounds nothing as most of the bands of this day do which are also coined with the term emo. Why is this? Because this is REAL emo, not this neo-emo stuff that really is nothing more than a form of pop-punk music.
Most people also relate emo music with being really whiney and crying about one's problems. Yes, this can be an element of emo music, but think about all the other bands out there that also have lyrics based on a depressing time in their life. Most bands have emotive lyrics, but they are not all emo.
Read the following lyrics:
"The razor caressed my flesh and my arms turned red,
I feel a vast desire.
Years of pain are flowing down my arms.
Sweet, red, warm stream you drink, make me released.
Give me your hand, let me make you feel the ease,
in the bed of razors we bleed together."

How many of you think those are really emo lyrics? Those of you who said yes, tell me, do you think the metal band Children of Bodom is emo? Neither do I, yet those lyrics came from their song "Bed of Razors". Therefore, as I said, having "emo" lyrics does not make the band emo.

Moving on! The kids you see with the multi-coloured hair, pink eyeshadow, tight pants, etc. are also not emo. There's this thing called "scene," which basically means that these people try to fit into a particular group, but fail. But of course, society doesn't acknowledge this fact and automatically calls them the term which they have used, and in this case, it is "emo". Real emo kids dress normally, because they don't need a specific style to show who they are to the world, and because the emo genre branched from the hardcore genre anyway (much like how the gothic style now was once the punk style). Emo boys don't have the stereotypical emo haircuts, they don't wear makeup, they don't wear girl clothing, et al. They dress normally.

So, please, the next time you see a kid who looks like
this
this

or God forbid even this
please realize that these are not true emo kids, and if they feel the need to call themselves such, backhand them and give them a lesson about who they are.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:59 PM   #107
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Well, back to the emo thing.

What are some emo bands I would hear on the radio or some of the mainstream ones?

I've been out of touch lately and am curious... I wanna investimagate dem tangs!!! lol
I think the band that had the most mainstream success would've been Sunny Day Real Estate, but they've long since broken up.

Otherwise, Emo doesn't get on the radio.
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Old 03-12-2007, 06:32 PM   #108
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I like emo music, Sunny Day Real Estate was a good one, I think JamisonParker git some airtime, but only on the college stations.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:05 PM   #109
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I'm afraid I have a confession... Hawthorne Heights is stereotypically emo and I love them. "So cut my wrist and black my eyes-" from "Ohio is For Lovers" says it all. Forgive me!
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:31 PM   #110
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Hawthorne Heights are pop-punk, not Emo. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:19 AM   #111
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Real emo's can be so cute at times, as in puppy-dog cute they're even cuter when wet.
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:29 AM   #112
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Oh, god! (imitates Tanya Harding) WHY?! WHY?!
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:26 AM   #113
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DAMN that's a old joke. Ain't heard that since the 4th grade. :-)
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:36 AM   #114
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Oh, god! (imitates Tanya Harding) WHY?! WHY?!
You mean Nancy Kerrigan. (yes, I used to figure skate... hush now).
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:55 AM   #115
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Most of you came to this thread thinking I am to rant about the mass of "emo" kids, and that you, too, can put your input in on how much you hate them. You were wrong, and I suggest you turn back now if you want to continue with the same mindset about emo kids that you currently have.

Emo is a term coined from the original phrase, Emotive Hardcore. It started out as a branch from the hardcore punk genre, beginning with the bands Rites of Spring and Embrace. The band Rites of Spring surprisingly sounds nothing as most of the bands of this day do which are also coined with the term emo. Why is this? Because this is REAL emo, not this neo-emo stuff that really is nothing more than a form of pop-punk music.
Most people also relate emo music with being really whiney and crying about one's problems. Yes, this can be an element of emo music, but think about all the other bands out there that also have lyrics based on a depressing time in their life. Most bands have emotive lyrics, but they are not all emo.
Read the following lyrics:
"The razor caressed my flesh and my arms turned red,
I feel a vast desire.
Years of pain are flowing down my arms.
Sweet, red, warm stream you drink, make me released.
Give me your hand, let me make you feel the ease,
in the bed of razors we bleed together."

How many of you think those are really emo lyrics? Those of you who said yes, tell me, do you think the metal band Children of Bodom is emo? Neither do I, yet those lyrics came from their song "Bed of Razors". Therefore, as I said, having "emo" lyrics does not make the band emo.

Moving on! The kids you see with the multi-coloured hair, pink eyeshadow, tight pants, etc. are also not emo. There's this thing called "scene," which basically means that these people try to fit into a particular group, but fail. But of course, society doesn't acknowledge this fact and automatically calls them the term which they have used, and in this case, it is "emo". Real emo kids dress normally, because they don't need a specific style to show who they are to the world, and because the emo genre branched from the hardcore genre anyway (much like how the gothic style now was once the punk style). Emo boys don't have the stereotypical emo haircuts, they don't wear makeup, they don't wear girl clothing, et al. They dress normally.

So, please, the next time you see a kid who looks like
this
this

or God forbid even this
please realize that these are not true emo kids, and if they feel the need to call themselves such, backhand them and give them a lesson about who they are.
Oh my god is that MY HIGHSCHOOL? is that ME IN THE PICTURE? no It's not, oh goody
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:53 PM   #116
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Oh yeah, note to self:

Delete, shred, and destroy any and all copies of anything I ever thought of as "poetry" I may have written in high school.

I read some of that stuff now, and oh my god is it terrible.

I remember it sounded so profound and deep at the time though, lol
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:11 PM   #117
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I went through that phase too. Thankgod nothing exists from that time period or I might just throw myself into a really cool, really huge machine...lol

Or just hit my off button..
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:03 PM   #118
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Aw man, you mean I can't stumble across one, steal it, and lock it in a vault to use as blackmail against you forever? Shucks.

There's one I could never get rid of though. Were were suposed to write a poem for my 7th grade english class and decorate it (smaaaaall school) and naturally mine was titled "rest in pain," was about creative ways of killing people, and was colored red and decorated with black flames.

I got it back with a note on the back from the teacher saying "I didn't grade this. These images are far too dark and disturbing to be dwelling on. I'm worried. Please see me after class."

Call me sentimental, but that paper is still special to me. Even if it was really bad, as far as poetry goes. I was so proud of myself. Ah, the good old emo days.
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:08 PM   #119
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Are you sure you're not the female version of my circuitry...lol
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:32 PM   #120
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Hopefully my 7th grade self doesn't exist anywhere, in any form. She was kindda clever, but really irritating in that special way that only emo's can be.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:08 PM   #121
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my current 8th grade self sounds a bit like your 7th grade selves. Baddish poetry and torturing teacher. I admit to being a bit emo, but I can blame hormones.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:21 PM   #122
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My advice is screw all these haters that don't like emo kids. Muck around in the melodrama while you can. Those memories are your rightful gothic inheritance in place of all the dances and football games.

The word 'emo' hadn't been invented yet when I would have fit the bill, but I charish my ridiculous teenage angst the way normal kids now value the memories of stupid pre-teen relationship drama. Youthful fun.

Indulge in emoness while it still makes sense. I'm glad I did.

Black and white photos at the cemetary. Crappy drawings of grim reapers. Enough metal in your face to supply Detroit. Do all of it. It's your birthright.

The fact is that being emo is one of the ways most encouraging of personal creativity you can choose to pull youself through the meat-grinder that is adolesence.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:36 PM   #123
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Repibligoth...

Did I just catch you trying to say that emo and goth are inherently the same??
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:54 PM   #124
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Repibligoth...

Did I just catch you trying to say that emo and goth are inherently the same??
OMG, did I violate a sacred law? Look, emo kids either grow out of it entirly or grow into a goth with a better sense of humor.

But if your 12,13,14, there's no way you aren't insane because it's an insane time. No one who claims the label 'goth' for themself was well adjusted enough at that age to not qualify as what the kids call 'emo' now. At 13, you're just kindda crazy, and that's fine. We all were. No reason to hate on it now just because you've moved on.

'Emo' is a right of passage for the 13 year old's that will stick with it and grow into 'goth' once they're no longer so upset over life.

Angsty teenage melodrama is a birthright. And kindda fun, looking back.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:20 AM   #125
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Rowr.

Alright alright. It is true, you rarely ever get to feel that kind of passion for no reason at all. Good for them. Me, honestly, just kinda found it weird to say that people were emo before they were goth. That's all. Emo is still pretty much a new idea or word for preteen angst without a just cause.
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