Michael Moore: good or bad?

[CptSternn]

They are being held up over legal reasons. The bush admin has personally sent offers, then threats about making any more shows. Thats when Stone/Parker decided the next season was going to feature the daughters as incestous lesbians who drink and do drugs constantly.

Then Comedy Central stepped in after pressure and now the whole thing is on hold.

Hopefully they will fight the power and just produce it anyway!

[Binkie]

Where do you keep hearing that they're coming out with a second season? It's be so god damn long since the end of the first one that I'd figure they would have just given up on it.

Wouldn't feel the same after so long once you start thinking about it. Especially if they scrap lines like: "One of these days, Laura, I'm gonna punch you in the face!""

[MrMaelstrom]

Fuel for the Fire. A letter from Michael Moore:





"To All My Fellow Americans Who Voted for George W. Bush:

On this, the fourth anniversary of 9/11, I'm just curious, how does it feel?

How does it feel to know that the man you elected to lead us after we were attacked went ahead and put a guy in charge of FEMA whose main qualification was that he ran horse shows?

That's right. Horse shows.

I really want to know -- and I ask you this in all sincerity and with all due respect -- how do you feel about the utter contempt Mr. Bush has shown for your safety? C'mon, give me just a moment of honesty. Don't start ranting on about how this disaster in New Orleans was the fault of one of the poorest cities in America. Put aside your hatred of Democrats and liberals and anyone with the last name of Clinton. Just look me in the eye and tell me our President did the right thing after 9/11 by naming a horse show runner as the top man to protect us in case of an emergency or catastrophe.

I want you to put aside your self-affixed label of Republican/conservative/born-again/capitalist/ditto-head/right-winger and just talk to me as an American, on the common ground we both call America.

Are we safer now than before 9/11? When you learn that behind the horse show runner, the #2 and #3 men in charge of emergency preparedness have zero experience in emergency preparedness, do you think we are safer?

When you look at Michael Chertoff, the head of Homeland Security, a man with little experience in national security, do you feel secure?

When men who never served in the military and have never seen young men die in battle send our young people off to war, do you think they know how to conduct a war? Do they know what it means to have your legs blown off for a threat that was never there?

Do you really believe that turning over important government services to private corporations has resulted in better services for the people?

Why do you hate our federal government so much? You have voted for politicians for the past 25 years whose main goal has been to de-fund the federal government. Do you think that cutting federal programs like FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers has been good or bad for America? GOOD OR BAD?

With the nation's debt at an all-time high, do you think tax cuts for the rich are still a good idea? Will you give yours back so hundreds of thousands of homeless in New Orleans can have a home?

Do you believe in Jesus? Really? Didn't he say that we would be judged by how we treat the least among us? Hurricane Katrina came in and blew off the facade that we were a nation with liberty and justice for all. The wind howled and the water rose and what was revealed was that the poor in America shall be left to suffer and die while the President of the United States fiddles and tells them to eat cake.

That's not a joke. The day the hurricane hit and the levees broke, Mr. Bush, John McCain and their rich pals were stuffing themselves with cake. A full day after the levees broke (the same levees whose repair funding he had cut), Mr. Bush was playing a guitar some country singer gave him. All this while New Orleans sank under water.

It would take ANOTHER day before the President would do a flyover in his jumbo jet, peeking out the widow at the misery 2500 feet below him as he flew back to his second home in DC. It would then be TWO MORE DAYS before a trickle of federal aid and troops would arrive. This was no seven minutes in a sitting trance while children read "My Pet Goat" to him. This was FOUR DAYS of doing nothing other than saying "Brownie (FEMA director Michael Brown), you're doing a heck of a job!"

My Republican friends, does it bother you that we are the laughing stock of the world?

And on this sacred day of remembrance, do you think we honor or shame those who died on 9/11/01? If we learned nothing and find ourselves today every bit as vulnerable and unprepared as we were on that bright sunny morning, then did the 3,000 die in vain?

Our vulnerability is not just about dealing with terrorists or natural disasters. We are vulnerable and unsafe because we allow one in eight Americans to live in horrible poverty. We accept an education system where one in six children never graduate and most of those who do can't string a coherent sentence together. The middle class can't pay the mortgage or the hospital bills and 45 million have no health coverage whatsoever.

Are we safe? Do you really feel safe? You can only move so far out and build so many gated communities before the fruit of what you've sown will be crashing through your walls and demanding retribution. Do you really want to wait until that happens? Or is it your hope that if they are left alone long enough to soil themselves and shoot themselves and drown in the filth that fills the street that maybe the problem will somehow go away?

I know you know better. You gave the country and the world a man who wasn't up for the job and all he does is hire people who aren't up for the job. You did this to us, to the world, to the people of New Orleans. Please fix it. Bush is yours. And you know, for our peace and safety and security, this has to be fixed. What do you propose?

I have an idea, and it isn't a horse show.

Yours,
Michael Moore"

[MrMaelstrom]

Some reading material for those who might wish to dispute facts.

THE FOLLOWING IS THE LINE BY LINE FACTUAL BACKUP FOR 'FAHRENHEIT 9/11'

http://www.michaelmoore.com/books-fi...ndex.php?id=16

[Nardol]

I don't like him at all. His movies are largely based on circumstantial evidence. I think he is a paid-off slandering puppet for either the DNP or the extreme left.

On a satirical note: while watching "Bowling for Columbine" me and my friends got bored of listening to him beat around the bush concerning gun control and "crazy white folk" and instead went outside to play with guns. HA!

[Disfunction]

*my friends and I

Hmmm... I wouldn't call Michael Moore extreme left. To be honest, I can't really say that he's anything at all resembling the extreme left.

[Nardol]

Are you kidding? If there weren't already an extreme left Micheal Moore would become it. Gun control, anti-republicanism and a refusal to criticize the democrats about anything? He DEFINES out of whack liberal idiots with half baked conspiracy theories. Mind you I don't even disagree with the most of the "facts" he brings up, or thier relevance, but he seems to entirely ignore the arguments against whatever crap he is saying at the time, he just prattles on. Unfortunately this sort of thing is perfect for herding the "TV tells me what to think" masses.

PS my apologies for bad grammer

[Vyvian Blackthorne]

gee i dunno if heis good or bad butt 1 do know dat hes a sexyarse man.

[Vako]

Roger and Me was a classic. Then he humped the bunk with Pet or Meat, a sad attempt at a follow-up. Bowling for Columbine was fun, and so was F911. But they were opinion pieces. That's all I see them as. That being said, I think Michael Moore is full of himself. Literally.

[Saddiction]

I enjoyed the show with the sodomobile where he took gay guys through states where sodomy was illegal with the intent on breaking the law. I especially enjoyed watching the sodomobile pull up to one of Fred Phelps 'God hates fags' protests.

Michael Moore also looks like a real-life version of Peter Griffin.

[CptSternn]

Whats funny is looking back at the comments in this thread now and comparing them to the newer comments.

Especially since people have made comments (in 2005) about WMD's and other disputed information which Moore spoke of and we now know to be true.

[Vako]

Originally Posted by Saddiction

Michael Moore also looks like a real-life version of Peter Griffin.

Ha ha ha! I thought the same thing!

Family Guy is hilarious.

[IsolatedReptile]

Originally Posted by Vako

Ha ha ha! I thought the same thing!

Family Guy is hilarious.

Its kinda like that time I out farted Michael Moore.

Cue something akin to dueling banjos.

[c130]

Necromancy Lulz

[ElectricMayhem]

I'm a fan of his. He makes pretty good films.