Is Homosexuality a Mental Disorder?

Originally Posted by Xnguela

I'm not saying your story isn't true, although it's as unbelievable as some of the yarns told to us by a former member (thus the skepticism)

You wanted an explaination and I told you,minus the gory details. But seeing as how nobody seems to believe me,there's no way I can actually "prove" this as fact.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

If it were a black person that attacked you, would you become a racist? I think not. I believe you would probably hate all rapists, hate attackers, hate the people that would do that to you, but I doubt you would hate all blacks.

Interesting that you said that,since the first person was black. I don't believe *all* blacks are like this,but it didn't do anything to make me trust or like them.

[JuliaGaltic]

Originally Posted by Xnguela

I don't think anyone ought to have taken it as one, though. It'd be kinda like if this guy was using "gay" as an insult (which I'm sure he does). We all know it's not an insult. Let's not take it as one.

Oh ok, I get what you're saying. I completely agree with that logic. I just don't like anyone attempting to mess with well-liked, intelligent members of this forum that have earned our collective respect.

I like the way you think Xng...

Originally Posted by Xnguela

So you don't hate all blacks, but you do hate all gays?

I'm clarifying, and more than that, I'm trying to make you think.

Did you notice the part of my post that you highlighted that read "some of the yarns told to us by a former member (thus the skepticism)"? We have had experience with stories of this nature that have turned out untrue, which explains the skepticism of the regular members. That doesn't mean we don't believe you, it means we are SKEPTICAL. Which means we think it could be true or it could be complete fabrication, and we would never know. It's actually quite a healthy attitude to have on the internet.

I'm supposed to answer the question:"Who do I hate more?" The first guy was black,the second white,both in different years and places. But the end result was(For me) a overwhelming urge not to trust anyone ever again and to basically start hating *all* people(Regardless of race or sexual identity). I don't think two people would be affected the same way,but(For me) my reaction is to instantly want to hate anything that has to do with homosexuality.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

You are supposed to consider what I said and think about what a single isolated incident has made you.

I wouldn't go so far as to call it:"Isolated",it was two rather large seperate events.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Posting it as an excuse for your homophobia... That's not a good way to deal with it. Projecting it into homophobia isn't, either.

Ah yes,everyone who dislikes Gays are automatically Homophobes.
{Isn't that just another way of saying:"You're actually a closeted Gay yourself"?}

Originally Posted by Xnguela

However, due to your experience, you said you were distrusting of homosexuals. I assumed you were also afraid of gay people based on your experiences.

Now, the "phobe" part of "homophobe" means fear.

It seems that the word 'Homophobe' is thrown around like a tennis ball whenever someone voices opposition to Gays.
I'm generally distrusting of just about everyone these days,I don't even like people standing to close to me in line at Krogers.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

I don't care how other people use the word "homophobe". I used it correctly and you know it.

I never said you were stupid,far from it.
Yes,I'm distrusting of just about everyone;but afraid? What happened to me provided a good enough reason to hate them.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

I guess I have to admit that I'm intolerant, too, though. I'm very much intolerant of bigotry, which is kind of an oxymoron, but you get my meaning.

I actually find that amusing.
But I'm keeping you awake listening to me ramble on. I really should let you get back to your board duties.

[Deviant Kitten]

I have a headache! *clasps head in hands*

Reject_Bunnies, it sounds to me as if you're worried about being called gay yourself.

Originally Posted by Reject_Bunnies

My dislike for Gays was also fueled by my days in Middle and High School,where I was harassed and tormented on a daily basis. I was forced to spend every school day in this living Hell basically being a "fagott" because I didn't have a girlfriend and my best(And only) friend at the time just happened to be male. Not to mention after school was out for the day I had to indore the harassment from other people in my neighborhood.;constantly calling me "Queer" for no reason. I was even labeled Gay at a church-sponsored camp I attended years ago(Just because I had no friends there except someone I knew from school).

So yeah,I pretty much started hating them from an early age. Of course the whole:"He must be Gay if he doesn't have a girlfriend" thing followed me into my first place after I moved out. Because I have Social Anxiety(Among other things) and don't make friends easily,I didn't have any female-relations..Hell,I couldn't even get a girl to look at me.But I'm not saying I *never* had any girlfriends-don't get me wrong.

Originally Posted by Reject_Bunnies

Ah yes,everyone who dislikes Gays are automatically Homophobes.
{Isn't that just another way of saying:"You're actually a closeted Gay yourself"?}

No one here has called you gay. It's true that some people who hold vehemently homophobic views are actually "closeted gays", but this is by no means a universal law. There are several different reasons for people to dislike gay people as a group, the main reason in my opinion being the one I posted earlier:

Originally Posted by Deviant Kitten

From what I've seen, homophobia stems from people being afraid of becoming an outcast, at odds with society's norm.

So you got bullied by a bunch of immature fuckwits who thought that calling a straight person "gay" was an insult? Get over it sweetie - there's no need to let their ignorant hatred fill your mind too!

As for the attacks you mentioned, I'm not going to debate whether or not they actually happened; only you know the truth. If you've been hurt and abused I urge you to seek counselling. All the anger, mistrust and hatred that's clearly inside you is only going to eat you up inside if you don't find a way to move on. Yes, it's easy to direct it at all gay people in general - but how is that going to make you feel anything but bitter and angry forevermore? Everyone has a right to their own sexual preferences, be they gay, straight or bisexual. No one has a right to abuse another person. Don't let these things stay tangled up in your mind, for your own sake.

OH my god, is it my turn?

Bunnies, I had you pegged from the first fucking time you farted in here. And like I said in my first rabid interaction with you, you need to back up your shit talk.

As far as you're little story, I think it smells worse then you're mothers crusty ass. IF that all did happen to you, you need to fucking get over it. Not only has it turned you into a hate mongering machine out to moraly **** everyone who isn't a bible thumper, it has made you a social pariah.

Shit happened to you. Shit happens to EVERYONE. The people who decide to take that shit, and smear it on their walls so they can veiw it and smell it each and every breath of their lives are going to be living with shit for the rest of their lives. You fall in this catagory.

But there are those that shit happens to. And you know what they do? They take a wipe, clean themselves off and watch the shit get flushed down the drain, never to bother them again.

The thing is you KNOW what the root of your hate is. And you CHOOSE to do nothing about it. You KNOW that you're hate for an entire group of people stems from ONE thing. And you REFUSE to see it for an isolated incident.

You need therapy but fast. Get rid of all that shit that is bogging you down. Get on with your life man. Because all you'll ever be until you do is a hatefilled asshole that screams at people about everything wrong their doing. And NO ONE likes that. NO ONE. The more hate you harbor, the more likely you WILL die alone.

Hate, and anger are such tiring things. Hate and anger eat away at your soul. And just because your God hates Fags doesn't mean that YOU have to. As a matter of fact, I believe your God told you ALL to practice tolerance, patience, and love. He specifically said that he will be the ONLY judge of a person. Why are you taking it into your hands what God told you he would do? Eh?

Do you think you're better then the god you worship?

Get a fucking life, asshole. Get one far far from here. Even IF you shut your yap, I don't think this is the place for you. So just bow out, admit that you're not liked here and go the fuck away already.

[MonsterMomma]

So...does anyone think they'll find the gay gene?

I do, and personally, I can't wait until they do. Just to prove once and for all that it is natural.

I know a lot of people don't want it found because some will start testing and aborting gay babies. But I say anyone who would abort a child because it's going to be gay, shouldn't be raising a gay child anyway.

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Dude, I know I'm authoritative, but it seems all newbs these days think I'm a mod, a man, or both!

Aww that's only because YOUR Balls are BIGGER than theirs.

It's a compliment really.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

What board duties?
it seems all newbs these days think I'm a mod, a man, or both!

I never thought you were a man,a Mod yes.

Originally Posted by Santarea

just go to [email protected].

Been there already.It's basically a cult where they twist the Bible into
saying whatever they want.Funny stuff really.

Originally Posted by GeishaGirl

OH my god, is it my turn?

I honestly stopped reading after this sentence.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Why'd you think I'm a mod?

Because you always seem to be instantly responding to every topic,like a Mod would do.I didn't mean anything by it.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Also, I think you should read what Geisha wrote.

Alright,I read to the point where she said something about my Mother and stopped(I graduated the Sixth Grade a long time ago,someone here obviously has not).
So really,whatever "important" information she supposedly has for me,I'll pass.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Geisha is a friend of mine. Please don't mock her. I don't care if you feel wronged, I don't think I can just sit there and watch someone insult a friend. I'm loyal like that.

I didn't join this board to "vent frustrations" or basically tick people off. But it's just funny how one second everyone thinks I'm interesting and cool until I said some things in the Abortion topic that people(Mostly Geisha) didn't like. But should I really care if one member of this Cliche hates me?

[Deviant Kitten]

Hey, am I part of the family yet Xng? *bats eyelashes*

"Orphaned Kitten looking for adoption - doesn't bite or scratch (much!)"

*giggle*

[Deviant Kitten]

*hugs Xng*
That's good to know =)

Originally Posted by Xnguela

I can see where we could come off as a "clique" but I think a more apt description would be a "family".

At first I was thinking:"Exclusive Club"..but Clique fits the profile where everyone has the same ideas,views,and opinions. Anyone who differs from this unwritten rule is methodically roasted(Until what,I leave so everyone can pat each other on the back for driving off another HateMonger?)

[Deviant Kitten]

Instead of acting the victim, why don't you reply to the post I made to you earlier? ^^
There was no "roasting" or indeed flaming in it, just some personal opinions. Why don't you respond with your opinions on what I wrote; then we could have an intelligent conversation - or are you only interested in arguing and whining?

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

Originally Posted by Reject_Bunnies

At first I was thinking:"Exclusive Club"..

but Clique fits the profile where everyone has the same ideas,views,and opinions.

Anyone who differs from this unwritten rule is methodically roasted(Until what,I leave so everyone can pat each other on the back for driving off another HateMonger?)

Actually, we all have very different values, opinions, backgrounds and beliefs.

A good portion of us, don't even consider ourselves to be "Goth".

We run the Gambit of Political Affiliations, and also have very diverse musical tastes.

Spin Again Pat.

[Disfunction]

I just love how he ignored every single one of my posts. He's got a talent there, or I've been put on ignore.

Originally Posted by Xnguela

FUCKING HELL, son, CAN'T YOU READ?!
One more time, just for you.
Did'ja get it this time, or do you need specific examples, asswipe?

If I didn't know better,one could start to believe you have "Issues".


This isn't a clique?....Nah,course not.

[Disfunction]

Originally Posted by Reject_Bunnies

If I didn't know better,one could start to believe you have "Issues".


This isn't a clique?....Nah,course not.

Check out the politics forum and see if it strikes you as a clique.

Originally Posted by Reject_Bunnies

At first I was thinking:"Exclusive Club"..but Clique fits the profile where everyone has the same ideas,views,and opinions. Anyone who differs from this unwritten rule is methodically roasted(Until what,I leave so everyone can pat each other on the back for driving off another HateMonger?)

Wow, so now you bring your bigoted generalizations to these boards? So EVERYONE here is against you. You are the victim. And you know what? Yes you are. You're a victim of your parents and of hate mongereing.

Guess what? Here's a few contradictions amongst the family. EPS is republican, or at least a republican supporter. I'm a democrat if anything. Wolf moon is against abortion, I think we should have more. Xnguela is all for liking your ass and forgiving, I wish i could meet you in person so I could throttle you.

We DON'T agree on everything. Not even close. But you don't want to read that. And you really should read my post. Aside from the remark about your mother, it's pretty clean. I know how pissy you can get when I call you names.

You're someone who wont change look at the evidence right in front of their face. You're like a screaming kid that's holding it's eyes and ears shut so they don't have to listen.

You grow up. You need SERIOUS help for all that hate inside.

And if you really did leave. FUCKING HOORAY! I know I for one am VERY happy we got rid of your racist, bigoted, ignorant syphilis infected, cum chewing, shit spitting mouth.

Oh, oops. That last is an opinion. You could have chlamydia. How would I know?

Originally Posted by Disfunction

I just love how he ignored every single one of my posts. He's got a talent there, or I've been put on ignore.

It's ok Dis... I still love ya!