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07-27-2004, 11:18 PM
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#176
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ok.. if you say it was a coming of age film Tstone.. then fine by me.. have at it..
when i saw it on the tv guide it said it was a horror flick.. i thought i had great luck in finding it .. seeing as if not i would have been subjected to something my boyfriend would have picked..(i.e. Ernest Goes to Africa or dumb and dumberer)
flash forward an hour later...
the story is progressing as snail's pace and i find myself wondering when i'm gonna get what i watched it for..( which was a scary killer beast i thought) i never got it.. i only got the GIANT PLASTIC DEER MAN!!!!!
it was weird..
i didn't think it really had a story.. kinda like one of those $2 softcore porn movies on cinemax.. there's a story there but you just don't know what it is or why it's even there..
it's going in that category of movies i'll never be wasting my time on again..
i already came of age
i don't mean to sound mean.. i really thought the movie was funny...
ijust don't think that the story was told as well as it should have been..
it's an acquired taste like gooseliver pate`...
ok.. i'm done sounding like a freak now..
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07-28-2004, 12:04 AM
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#177
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Originally Posted by SuicideJade
ok.. if you say it was a coming of age film Tstone.. then fine by me.. have at it..
when i saw it on the tv guide it said it was a horror flick.. i thought i had great luck in finding it .. seeing as if not i would have been subjected to something my boyfriend would have picked..(i.e. Ernest Goes to Africa or dumb and dumberer)
flash forward an hour later...
the story is progressing as snail's pace and i find myself wondering when i'm gonna get what i watched it for..( which was a scary killer beast i thought) i never got it.. i only got the GIANT PLASTIC DEER MAN!!!!!
it was weird..
i didn't think it really had a story.. kinda like one of those $2 softcore porn movies on cinemax.. there's a story there but you just don't know what it is or why it's even there..
it's going in that category of movies i'll never be wasting my time on again..
i already came of age
i don't mean to sound mean.. i really thought the movie was funny...
ijust don't think that the story was told as well as it should have been..
it's an acquired taste like gooseliver pate`...
ok.. i'm done sounding like a freak now..
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Genius. Pure fucking genius. You nailed it on the head. It's like the movie studio had to keep reminding the director it was a horror movie!
Studio Exec: Uh Larry, I know this is your baby, but where is the monster?
Larry Fessenden: A what?
Studio Exec: Monster. You said this was a horror movie.
Larry Fessenden: Listen., I am trying to set this shot up. It's important to the movie.
Studio Exec: They are cleaning up after dinner, how is that scary?
Larry Fessenden: If I want a fifteen minute scene of them cleaning THE FUCKING COUNTER AFTER DINNER, THEN I'M GONNA FILM THEM CLEANING THE FUCKING COUTNER AFTER DINNER! Besides, I already shot the monster.
Studio Exec: You mean when you put antlers on that guy from catering services?
Larry Fessenden: Yes.
Studio Exec: So...the movie you're supposed to make after this about the Jersey Devil...
Larry Fessenden: ...is about a middle aged couple dealing with their fading passion.
Studio Exec: I hate you.
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07-28-2004, 10:07 AM
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#178
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Another reason I am glad I am a vegetarian: I don't have to choose between duck and goose livers and assorted ground flesh from a bovine.
A better anaology would have been something to do with turkey, like you thought you were getting a chicken sandwich and instead you get a turkey.
Because turkey has L-tryptophan which makes you sleepy, just as Wendigo does. Later your body will excrete the turkey and that will be the last you will have to do with it.
"'S'cuse me. Sorry ta bother yous in the middle of doin' them there dishes, but have any you folks seen any intrestin' plots 'round here?"
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07-28-2004, 10:35 AM
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#179
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: A little left of Hell...
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Off the Wendigo subject... (As I haven't seen it yet I cannot comment)
I just recently saw Beyond Borders with Angelina Jolie and the obligatory male counterpart (hey, Imma guy... lol...)
A very powerful movie with a powerful message in my opinion, but it does not hold together well... It's one of those movies you have to allow some space for semi noticable mistakes in plot... I could rip it apart fairly easily but I wont because like all things that have simple beauty in them... it is fragile. It actually gave me a great deal of respect for Angelina Jolie though... I thought she did a more than passable job of giving her character depth... and her counterpart did an excellent job with his character... Once again, it's just some minor plot issues I have, so really it's no fault of the actors.
The story is fairly simple, being about humanity in it's efforts to help the down trodden and the oppressed but there are complexities that add spice to it... The ending wasn't as predictable as I thought but if you look for it you can see it coming as with some movies...
If you're a romantic I recomend this movie... If you're a realist... I'd say don't... but far be it for me to guide you... I thought personally that it was very good inspite of the message being mostly bullshit (Love conquers all inspite of everything and one person can help change humanity by changing the person within... partially true but too massive a change is necessary in the bulk of humanity and most of humanity wouldn't know what love is if it bit them on the ass... so for all practicle purposes... bullshit) but then I am being particularly cynical at the moment...
That's all for now...
Later?... The Butterfly Effect...
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07-28-2004, 03:22 PM
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#180
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TStone
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Originally Posted by AlKilyu
A boy losing his virginity? Are you refering to his father or A Father? Cause as sick as that is, it would have been a lot more interesting than that movie. With his 60 year old wife, negro please. Sorry TStone, but tht movie failed to even be what you saw it for, which is a pretty smart way of looking at it. While I disagree about this movie and hate the movie in general, I have a new found respect for the way you think.
It's your taste that sickens me!
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I think I put the quantifier of reality in my wording, let me check…yep, I said a boy losing his virginity to reality, but I think you know what I meant.
As for the story failing to get that message across, it’s not from a lack of trying. A reference is made about the boy and his father’s relationship in the car while traveling to the weekend home, directly after getting to the home, when he goes to the store and receives the Wendigo carving. The time we spend in the home, cleaning dishes, playing games, and interacting reinforces the idea that the family is trying hard to reconnect. During this time we are given flashes and foreshadows in the form of a mysterious wind, a fog, and of moving shadows through trees from the son. He knows something bad is coming, we know something bad is coming, but we see it from his (the boy’s) eyes and as children are apt to do; the bad thing took the illogical form of a boogeyman. As a horror movie it does exactly the opposite of most horror movies and plays down the boogeyman aspect in favor of the true life experience.
The boy loses his father to a random act of stupidity, his mother and his life are forever marked by that change, which is presented in a tasteful manner at the end with the image of the father’s shoes in the empty hallway.
I think the problem people have with this movie is real expectations. It’s the difference between going to the burger joint and expecting a greasy conglomeration of fats, proteins, carbohydrates with a thin pickle on top, and receiving instead (as Suicide pointed out) Foie Gras on crusted toast with a thin truffle atop. I was happy to find the mistake in my bag, but most of you are not as forgiving. I can live with that.
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ok.. with this explanation that you gave Mr. Stone, i understand the movie in a different light.. now it makes sense.. so now i can see it two ways.. a very subtle story of family dynamics (albeit a little too subtle for your average moviewatching insomniac at 2 AM) i think i should get ahold of someone and get them to stop misrepresenting this as a scary creature feature.. because scary it is not.. and the creature better known as GIANT PLASTIC DEER MAN!! was the biggest joke since the blair witch project
thank you TStone for making this movie a 2 for 1.. an intellectual piece on family dynamics, and a raging guffaw fest at that wonderful critter known as the GIANT PLASTIC DEER MAN!
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07-29-2004, 08:33 AM
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#181
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Suicide Jade has inspired me...
edit: This is one I like to call Shitty Movie Ahead
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07-29-2004, 09:25 PM
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#182
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Alabama
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Originally Posted by AlKilyu
Suicide Jade has inspired me...
edit: This is one I like to call Shitty Movie Ahead

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BWAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
i love it!.. i fucking adore it!
that is fucking lovely!
my spleen is now ruptured..
i'm off to call my doctor
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07-29-2004, 09:31 PM
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LMAO :lol:
Me thinks we need an entire emergency medical team in here in jade.
That's fuckin funny I just spilled all my intestines.
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07-30-2004, 01:30 AM
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heh thanks! sorry 'bout the spleen. See what that crappy movie does? It ruptures internal organs!
Oh and I know the last movie EPS saw...AUDITION! hahahahahaha
Kiri kiri kiri...Kiri kiri kiri...
ow she hit me in the face with a pillow. I know that sounds light but she hit really freaking hard. See, I tell Manimal what movies NOT to watch, he does, and EPS gets mad at ME! How fair is that? It's not I tell you! He rents them from Netflix and gets all the hot sex, I get hit and kicked. Life is so unfair.
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07-30-2004, 08:00 AM
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#185
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle
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Al-I have this vision that if you ever meet Kier-La Janisse, you two are going to hit it off so well that you'll end up married 24 hours later...I only fear what the spawn will end up like...
As far as "Giant Plastic Deer Man", it's nowhere near as god-awful as "The Killer Shrews"...in fact, we should the shrews from that filmduke it ut with Giant plastic Deer Man!!!! That would be awesome!!!!!!
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07-30-2004, 02:54 PM
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Is she the chick that runs that film festival in Vancouver? Or did, she's in Texas last I heard.
I've never seen a pic of her, but you have me thinking one of us should procreate with her and create the coolest kid ever.
Actually you can, I am going to procreate with Sherri Moon.
Well, that won't work, Manimal thinks she's an airhead, so EPS won't let me.
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07-30-2004, 05:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle
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Yeah, that's her. And yeah, she lives in Texas now.
I'd breed with her, but A-I've already gotr the most perfect children in the world, and B-She's a canadian living in Texas. Think about that for a second...as far as pics of her, I'll have to look. I thought I had some, but I'm sure my buddy has some (along with some...ummm...incriminating photos of myself after we discovered the one bar in Vancouver that A-allows smoking, B-forgot the concecpt of "last call", and C-were jopined by alcoholic film-stars and film-makers)
And actually, I think you should breed with Asia Argento. Now THAT would bring about interesting spawn.
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08-01-2004, 02:58 PM
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#188
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Originally Posted by Loy
Yeah, that's her. And yeah, she lives in Texas now.
I'd breed with her, but A-I've already gotr the most perfect children in the world, and B-She's a canadian living in Texas. Think about that for a second...as far as pics of her, I'll have to look. I thought I had some, but I'm sure my buddy has some (along with some...ummm...incriminating photos of myself after we discovered the one bar in Vancouver that A-allows smoking, B-forgot the concecpt of "last call", and C-were jopined by alcoholic film-stars and film-makers)
And actually, I think you should breed with Asia Argento. Now THAT would bring about interesting spawn.
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Oh that would be perfect! She is gorgous!
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08-01-2004, 07:55 PM
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#189
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Ghost in the Shell
Alrighty, as a quick prelude let me just say I'm not a fan of Anime at all. It's not the animation I dislike, it's the personalities and behavior that irk the shit out of me. Why do I say this? Because if you hear about some Anime flick being good from someone who likes shallow plots and even emptier characters, then uh... yeah I think I just said what I wanted to say without finishing my sentence. >.>
Anyways, onto the movie! I like very few movies... and I mean very few (at least all the way through). But Ghost in the Shell wasn't too damn bad. The plot has depth and the subject matter interested the hell out of me (i.e. government assassinations of foriegn diplomats, industrial espionage, government cover-ups, intellegence agencies basically attacking each other).
The main character ('The Major') was a nice change from your stereotypical female heroine. A woman character who can kick ass without rubbing the audience the wrong way with an overly-cocky attitude or feeding off this pro-feminist bullshit ("I've got to out-do all you male characters cause you've all got a higher social status"). That and the bull-dyke "I chew bullets in my spare time" personalities for women characters with weapons annoyes the ba-jesus out of me. So it was nice to see someone breaking the mold in that area.
As much as I liked this movie, there were still the Anime cliches that squirmed their way into the script that got on my nerves. While these two characters are on a boat, having a somewhat philasophical conversation, one of the characters (basically a robot) takes a sip of beer. Instead of explaining that elsewhere, the character pauses in the middle of the conversation and explains exactly how she can drink that beer, being a machine and all. The dialogue read like VCR instructions. Took me out of the movie right then and there when the script addresses the audience rather than the other characters. Anime flicks love to do that.
Other than the here and theres, I didn't have much beef with Ghost in the Shell. Well... aside from maybe the rampant superstition that runs throughout a technologically dominated world. But yeah. It was a well thought-out script, sound animation, and interesting (not distant) characters. The thing plays out like your standard anime film, but doesn't go off the deep end so many times like many of the other films do. I'd recommend it to anyone who finds the subject material of the film interesting.
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08-03-2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Loy
As far as "Giant Plastic Deer Man", it's nowhere near as god-awful as "The Killer Shrews"...in fact, we should the shrews from that filmduke it out with Giant plastic Deer Man!!!! That would be awesome!!!!!!
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Run Loy run!
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08-03-2004, 02:49 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
The best part of the film is the shrews. They got dogs and taped on bits of fur and fake teeth, and everytime they show the "shrew", you see these dogs trying to shake their costumes off. It's so awesome!!!
But we need to have the shaky shrews and the giant plastic deer man duke it once and for all!!! Final smackdown! Winner eats loser!!!!
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08-03-2004, 08:47 PM
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i vote for the GIANT PLASTIC DEER MAN.. it has magical powers you know..
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08-03-2004, 09:04 PM
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To .BatteryPoison. : I agree with you on the anime. I have a lot of friends that will watch anime simply because it is anime... sometimes they're horrible, but some are really interesting. Have you seen Akira? One of the things I've noticed about anime and other animated films is that you don't expect tha violence to affect you... but it sometimes does...
to Tstone: I just saw that movie as well. I liked the ending... sort of. At least it was a suprise.
Right now I'm watching The Birds. I love Alfred Hitchcock.
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08-03-2004, 11:21 PM
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#194
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Originally Posted by SuicideJade
i vote for the GIANT PLASTIC DEER MAN.. it has magical powers you know..
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I'll do what I can, but the friggin GPDM has one disadvantage: HE DOESN'T DO A FRIGGIN THING! NOT ONE! He stands in front of a lamp in the forest, the prick never moves, and THAT'S what they cut to every so often to remind you it's supposed to be scary!
See this?

See how this puppet thing is moving? It's doing TEN TIMES WHAT THE FRIGGIN WENDIGO BASTARD DID!
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08-04-2004, 03:37 AM
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That's not a puppet! That's a dog trying to shake off it's costume!! Of course it's going to be doing more than scary ol' GPDM!!!
Just re-watched "Manos-The Hands Of Fate".....*urgh*. Possibly the worst film ever (actually, that would be...oh, I know there's gotta be a worse one out there somewhere!). But since we decided to remake it shot-for-shot, we've gotta study it.....*urgh*
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08-04-2004, 07:11 AM
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Just watched "Les invasions barbares", a remarkably good Québecois film. My French isn't good enough to have understood all of it, especially since there were some pretty linguistically complicated conversations going on there (yay for wordplay!), but it was excellent. Lots of interesting juxtapositions of ideals, and characters you could actually believe in. If your local video store has a decent foreign section, try and find it. At some point I'm going to watch it again with subtitles though, cause I know some of the bits I missed were interesting.
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08-04-2004, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Loy
Just re-watched "Manos-The Hands Of Fate".....*urgh*. Possibly the worst film ever (actually, that would be...oh, I know there's gotta be a worse one out there somewhere!). But since we decided to remake it shot-for-shot, we've gotta study it.....*urgh*
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OMG that's so friggin awesome! Holy sheep shanks man, that will be fun! I read a really detailed 'behind the scenes' about that movie, pretty interesting read. One of many questions I now have are:
1) Are you gonna focus the camera, or go with the original?
b) Will the opening and closing car shots be just as long and boring and pointless?
III) Who is gonna be Torgo?
Apparently the rumour about John Reynold's (the actor who played Torgo) suicide had nothing to do with the movie. Rumour was he wore those goat leg things backwards, not knowing the proper way to don them, and because of this was in such agonizing pain he couldn't deal with it. He died before the movie was debuted, at least he was spared that.
Yeah thanks Loy, his theme song is stuck in my head now...
TStone: I agree. M. Night had most of it covered except for that part. That and eventually the gene pool would need outside assistance.
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08-04-2004, 11:23 AM
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Last movie I saw was American Splendor. I never read the comic before, but I just might pick it up sometime, 'cos this movie really warmed my heart. I like films about negative pricks, and I just lo-ove to see Paul Giamatti do a stellar job in a role like that. The cuts and interviews with the real Harvey Pekar didn't really work for me, it fragmented the whole experience a little more than neccessary. Still, I had a fun time, with the occasional bittersweet tug at the heartstrings.
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08-04-2004, 11:30 AM
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Al-When I said "shot-for"shot", I actually meant "shot-for-shot", long takes and all, and my buddy Ryan's playing Torgo, who watches the place while the master's gone. We figured that since all these cool horoor films have been getting remade horribly recently, we'd start off with a crappy film and make our version just as horrible. Just hoping the odd attempted groping scene turns out just as awesome.
Korellyn-You should check out "Decline Of The American Empire", which is the film that "Barbarian Invasions" is a sequal to. Really great movie....actually, you should check out Denys Arcand's films in general, since they're great and nobody else seems to know them at all. He also did "Jesus Of Montreal" (which I think is his best film), "Stardom", and "Love And Other Catastrophes".
Tstone-thanks for breaking my heart :cry:
but is it any "Rock And Roll Nightmare", where Thor gets turned into an angel of light (I never knew that angels wore nothing but spiked-leather thongs and bracelets, capes, and teased out hair...the things you learn everyday) and fights against the muppet devils?
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08-04-2004, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pitseleh
Last movie I saw was American Splendor. I never read the comic before, but I just might pick it up sometime, 'cos this movie really warmed my heart. I like films about negative pricks, and I just lo-ove to see Paul Giamatti do a stellar job in a role like that. The cuts and interviews with the real Harvey Pekar didn't really work for me, it fragmented the whole experience a little more than neccessary. Still, I had a fun time, with the occasional bittersweet tug at the heartstrings.
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That movie is great! None of my friends would watch it with me, though... they said it was boring and depressing. OH- Well.
Anyway, I think the worst movie I have ever seen was This Island Earth. That's why i love the Mystery Science Theater 3000 Movie. Tom Servo's the best.
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