If Your Child is Gothic, Reform Through The Lord

[Tam Li Hua]

TheBloodEternity: Wow. If this is exactly like you say it is, then that is one very bad psychologist. O_o

I'm sorry your artwork got burned. That sucks. :/ Perhaps you could save it on the Internet, like on deviant.ART or something..?

[Tam Li Hua]

I'm just curious: Did anyone actually find the website for this list?

And is it the kind of list we really should take seriously? Because it seems more tongue-in-cheek than anything else.

[Underwater Ophelia]

It is.
It's just a joke.

[TheBloodEternity]

Tam Li: The psychologist actually WORKS FOR MY SCHOOL, which is supposed to be one of the best. Fucking pisses me off.
I already had them saved to the internet. Doesn't make it any less enraging that I don't have the originals, those really meant a lot to me and the fact that she would have the nerve to do that is fairly angering.

Also, yeah this list is totally serious!
... Come on, the OP even stated that the list is bunk in the original post.

[ellelino]

"Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult."
is there anyone who would want otherwise?

[Sweet Insanity]

26 here. Looks like I'm going to counseling. Boo.

[Jaye Jang]

Holy cow. I read the list, and what did not make me LOL, almost made me cry. Apart from the areas of genuine concern, i.e. self-mutilation and suicidal behavior, the rest is just amazing overreaction. I think the website is a parody (at least I hope so). Otherwise I'm in trouble, because what does not sound like my job description sounds like most of what I type. Geez, Louise. I guess this makes me subversive...and I'm religious. Unfortunately, there are some 'fanatics' who actually sincerely believe all this 'croc', which is just sad. (But, like they say here, 'Some folks are so narrow-minded they could look through a keyhole with both eyes, without getting a headache.'), and here I was going to say, "Well, at least they're not swinging a chicken over your head." (See the reference in the 'Suck My Udders' thread for that one).

[schoolsucksletsanarky]

Originally Posted by Neurosis

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

It claims that Philosiphy is is dangerous religeon.

[Alarica]

Web site called godhatesgoths.com. Theres a whole page stating if you are a goth raising kids, you are abusing your child. Dont have time to look on the main site mind you!! Having horror films in your collection is also a bad thing apparently....oops.

Also just read that according to a list written with help from the FBI, allowing your child to read Harry Potter books will result in said child becoming posessed!! Well i never.

Originally Posted by Alarica

Web site called godhatesgoths.com. Theres a whole page stating if you are a goth raising kids, you are abusing your child. Dont have time to look on the main site mind you!! Having horror films in your collection is also a bad thing apparently....oops.

Also just read that according to a list written with help from the FBI, allowing your child to read Harry Potter books will result in said child becoming posessed!! Well i never.

I've seen that wesite before, Some random asshole sent me the link on myspace.

Anyway here are some of the highlights from what I skimmed:

Dear Loser,

Welcome to the GodHatesGoths.com. The Official Website of the 'Parents Against Goth' Organisation. A Peaceful Christian Organisation set-up to warn Parents and Children about the dangers of getting involved in the sinister and violent Gothic subculture. This website is the result of 10 long years of painstaking research and investigation into teen Satanism, Self-harming, Wicca, and the twisted and disturbing world of Goth.

I love that they refer to themselves as "peaceful"

Goths are the lowest form of human trash that has ever crawled upon this good clean earth. 'Garbage people' I call them, and I can assure you that is what they are. Freaks who worship the Devil, who take drugs and molest children, who have pre-marrital sex, who whore themselves, who are obsessed with Vampirism, and abuse handicapped kids, who promote cross-dressing and underaged homosexuality, who behave like wild violent animals that need to be put down, who cut themselves and try to get others to self harm, degrade themselves and attempt suicide and think it is acceptable behaviour

...

Goths in my opinion are more dangerous to Children than **********, and need serious psychiatric help. The sooner Goths realise what they have is nothing short of mental illness, the better for everyone concerned.

Thats right, The guy in black is much more dangerous than the guy who will r@pe your children.

GOD ALSO DETESTS RETARDS. DOWN SYNDROME, CEREBAL PALSY, THALIDOMIDES, DWARFISM, SPINA BIFIDA, AND OTHER CREATURES SPASTIC RETARDATIONS ARE REPULSIVE TO GOD. THE BIBLE STATES QUITE CLEARLY THAT THESE TWISTED LIMBLESS MONSTERS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR A CHURCH, AS THEY ARE UNCLEAN AND REPULSIVE TO GOD. THEY ARE AN ABOMINATION. THEY HAVE MINDS OF SUCH A REPROBATE NATURE THAT THEY ARE GIVEN TO SEXUALLY GRATIFYING THEMSELVES IN PUBLIC, AND ARE NOTHING MORE THAN SLOBBERING STAMMERING ANIMALS. WHY SHOULD THEY GET THE BEST CARE? GET GRANTS TO BUILD RAMPS FOR THEM? WHEELCHAIRS? PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT? IF GOD DID NOT INTEND THEM TO WALK, LET THEM CRAWL LIKE THE SNAKES THEY ARE.

The best part is in one of the quotes I posted, the writer said that Goths "abuse handicap kids" and yet thier dennoucing them here?

[Alarica]

Oh yeah i saw that too. I also just skimmed over the MASSIVE list of warning signs with my eldest sat here laughing at the fact someone had time to write all that drivel. If the lists were all true, that would make me a satan worshiping goth child abuser. Inverted pentagram tattoo (and it isnt small!), large collection of horror films AND all the Harry potter books and dvd's. Plus all the 'goth and heavy/black metal' i listen to.

And there was me under the impression that 'god' loved everyone.

[Ms.Crowbar]

Originally Posted by Neurosis

This is a list that I believe most of you have already seen throughout the Internet. It is supposedly be from a website called Parody, but I was unable to find it. I am not here to begin a whinefest, and I inted this thread to not do so. It is just a clarification on how any of what is listed here has affected what most people say to you, even the extremes.

Like for me as an example: My pastor is very guillable, and whichever hoax chain mail slips through his inbox, he believes. Mostly would send to my father to ask if it is true or not. But this list has not been rejected by my father, but approved and notified. That Sunday, the pastor was preaching about today's society, how "rock music" affects teen's behavior, and how a person dresses reflects how they are on the inside. Would anyone else have any memories (I believe there will be a lot), as to which point in this list has viewed on what people believe that Goths really are? I'm not only talking about the usuals, but the others here which seem to be pushing the limit, exaggerated.

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your
child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil,darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counseling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

-Frequently wears black clothing.

-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.

-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nail polish.

-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.

-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.

-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)

-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.

-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.

-Takes drugs.

-Drinks alcohol.

-Is suicidal and/or depressed.

-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)

-Complains of boredom.

-Sleeps too excessively or too little.

-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.

-Spends large amounts of time alone.

-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil spirits through meditation.)

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.

-Misbehaves at school.

-Misbehaves at home.

-Eats excessively or too little.

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this. (*Remark: it's Count Chocula, not Dracula, idiots.)

-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)

-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.

-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.

-Expresses an interest in sex.

-Masturbates

-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.

-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".

-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

--Neurosis

hehe... hehehehe.... hehehehehe.....
No.
I bet that the asswipes who wrote this are either taking the piss or are very serious. Either way, they probably have no lives of their own.

[Geoluhread]

@sanguine mind, That was disturbing...

[Ms.Crowbar]

I just went onto that site.
Fuck, I'm in tears here.
That site is so vile and degrading, it makes me feel ill.
Not just degrading to goths, but degrading to Witches, women, homosexuals, people with serious disorders, basically anyone who isn't what Society recognises as "Normal" and anybody who isn't a God-fearing asshole who can't think for their damned selves.
I am fucking sick of people like that fucker who made that site. I am fucking sick of discrimination in any shape or form.
What the fuck do people like that good for nothing asshole get out of making people miserable?

[JCC]

It's a joke, probably made by Goths.

Good waste of tears, do it enough and you'll wither.

[Ms.Crowbar]

It's just so sickening to think that there are people out there who really think that way about people.
I really do hope that the site is a joke. I really do.

[Alarica]

if it was just 1 page, you could pass it off as a joke, but there is article upon article on that site, slating anyone who dares not go to church pretty much.

Still, the world is full of people like that. Entitled to an opinion no matter how potentially damaging it can be, unfortunately!

[JCC]

There is no passing it off as a joke.

This site is an internet legend: it IS a joke, that's not open to interpretation.

Originally Posted by Geoluhread

@sanguine mind, That was disturbing...

It's absolutly rediculous that some people can devote so much time to trash talk a sub culture.

[JCC]

FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

IT EVEN SAYS ON THE FUCKING WEBSITE THAT IT'S A JOKE.

TAKE YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASS, YOUR NON-CONFORMISM IS NOT BEING THREATENED, YOU 'ALTERNATIVE' DICKS, IT'S A FUCKING JOKE.

I hate people like you. Even when someone points out that it's a joke you still take it as a massive affront to you, most of you aren't even goth anyway, get the fuck over yourselves.

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that JCC wrote Godhategoths.com?

[JCC]

I wish I had, it would be hilarious to see all of you mallgoth idiots crying into your My Chemical Romance tissues about how fictional priests think you like Satan even when it's reiterated several times by a sexy, intelligent and generally fantastic member of gothic.net that the site is a joke.

[JCC]

If you need it illustrated further that taking this site seriously is the stupidest shit you could possibly do:

http://www.godhatesgoths.com/disclaimer.html

[MollyMac]

It's akin to the "True Believer" syndrome, or an inverse of a dim-sitted Stockholm syndrome. They need this to get by, JCC. Let 'em have it.

Originally Posted by JCC

If you need it illustrated further that taking this site seriously is the stupidest shit you could possibly do:

http://www.godhatesgoths.com/disclaimer.html

Lol, It was too strange to be true, well at least you shut us up..