Re-Mod Xng! - Page 9

Scythan · 11-18-2005, 09:55 AM

Yeah; why do you put a period at the very bottom of your post? Just wondering.

11-18-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mael

S/he is not only a moderator, but one of the higher powers on this site.

Thank you Mael for the clarification on who this DirtNap is...

i do have a few questions for DirtNap.

Where is this site going? i clearly read on a *********** post that A.G. and F.B. had a new editor for this site and h/she had some plans for it. What are those plans? To leave it as it is a simple forum with a few porn banners advertising A.G. and F.B.'s other sites?

i can deal with the ousting of Darren, but the demise of a nice little literary webzine? Nay, the transformation of a literary webzine to a simple forum rife with fucktards (trolls). Yes, i could use the ignore function, i have before, but my main qualm is the direction of this site.

Again, where is it going? A little insight would be grand. Busy busy busy i understand, yet Darren was a few weeks away from unveiling an improved version of Gothic.net...but no, now i sift through threads about little kids cutting themselves for the attention of mommy and daddy, and "oh why is me" teeny bopper fucking journal poetry.

DirtNap, how about an update? Is there some sort of evolution in the works or is this best y'all gonna give us?

-Vince

11-18-2005, 11:22 AM

The ignore button is a VERY good point. A troll can't and won't troll if noone gives them the satisfaction of a response. there are good newbs and bad newbs and it's usually pretty clear early on who belongs in which category. This is a public forum and as such we, members of the public, get to deal with other members of and from the public internet space. Again reiterating that we get the good with the bad.

The only way around this is to make the site NON public and require new members to be sponsered in. Doing so limits the potential this site has for the sharing of words and ideas with new people. I've only been here for a couple of years, and not super active during a lot of that time but I can tell you that there has ALWAYS been disruptive newbs and there will ALWAYS be more that follow so long as the site remains publicly open.

Mael is right on the money. If you read some posts by someone and you do not approve, use the ignore button and potentially report major abuse to your local mods. That's all any of us can do should we choose to participate here.

yurt

AlKilyu · 11-18-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtNap

I'd remove all your disgusting piss stuff, if I could.

I made those, and I thought since we do have porn banners at the top of this site it wouldn't be a problem. Not that I have a problem with the banners...

11-18-2005, 11:34 AM

You know that's another good point. Since the main advertising for this site is entirely "adult" content, wouldn't it be wise - both legally and morally - to make this site an adults only site? You know - something at the front warning kids not to enter. Something bold and blatant with new account registrations. I can see some parent of 13 year old black dress Sally freaking out at the discovery of this site pushing pornography onto their impressionable child who came here to whine about school to other black dress Sally's.

I've thought about this before - many have I'm sure - but I never said anything.

So what gives?

DirtNap · 11-18-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMaelstrom

And the IGNORE button is something EVERYONE should use.

Only problem is that someone who stumbles onto this site (meaning a potential member/writer) will see posts by trolls and might get a completely different idea of this site than we (who after clicking the ignore button can't see their posts).

Trolls will still pollute this site that way and leave an unmistakable blemish.

But the IGNORE function is still an incredibly usefull tool to members here. USE IT!!!!!

I should have been more clear, it was really late. A combination of report post and ignore should work fine. That way, when people review the offending posts and remove them, they are wholly gone. Once people start mixing it up with trolls, it becomes a lot more difficult to cut out the junk. It is also a lot more likely that they might get caught up in the cleanup process. That is what I think happened to Xnguela.

For those of you that didn't know already, I was asked to help keep an eye on things here and help out a bit.

TheKorovaMilkbar · 11-18-2005, 05:12 PM

You know what.

Here's what I have to say. Ignore it if you want but I'm gonna say it anyway.

How can you all just give up and leave? Is this something you would do in real life? I have a policy not to give up when life throws me a curveball, and believe me it has saved me countless times. I have grown to care what actually happens on this board regardless if any of us have met face to face or not.

Don't just give up. Why would you just up and leave those you care about here just because of a few assholes? It's like leaving your friends to deal with the rabid dogs without your help.

I'm dissappointed in the fact that you could give up so easily when faced with a fixable problem.

Well, I'm gonna stay, be it alone or not, and flame and bash every single idiot into submission if that's what it takes to get this board back on track. Because I like speaking to intelligent people, be it online or not.

DirtNap · 11-18-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKorovaMilkbar

You know what.

Here's what I have to say. Ignore it if you want but I'm gonna say it anyway.

How can you all just give up and leave? Is this something you would do in real life? I have a policy not to give up when life throws me a curveball, and believe me it has saved me countless times. I have grown to care what actually happens on this board regardless if any of us have met face to face or not.

Don't just give up. Why would you just up and leave those you care about here just because of a few assholes? It's like leaving your friends to deal with the rabid dogs without your help.

I'm dissappointed in the fact that you could give up so easily when faced with a fixable problem.

Well, I'm gonna stay, be it alone or not, and flame and bash every single idiot into submission if that's what it takes to get this board back on track. Because I like speaking to intelligent people, be it online or not.

I certainly appreciate your can-do attitude.

Reporting and ignoring the idiots and trolls would work much better though. Flaming and bashing just drags the thread or conversation or even the whole board down into the muck. There are people in place to correct or remove these characters. It is better just to carry on, unruffled.

TheKorovaMilkbar · 11-18-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtNap

Reporting and ignoring the idiots and trolls would work much better though.

But nobody's doing that. They're all leaving.

11-18-2005, 06:29 PM

Internet forums can only hold ones attention for so long. After a couple thousand posts on the same general topics what more is there left to say? Many people are also, no matter how much they pretend, are very resistant to change. And when things do change it is percieved as worse then before when really - it's just different.

I've seen it time and time again over the years with the various boards and forums I've been a member and moderator for... there comes a time for some when enough is enough. It so happens that here people tend to do it with much more public spectacle. It's the nature of expressive word artists - and those that try - I suppose.

thetiesonyourcorset · 11-18-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKorovaMilkbar

But nobody's doing that. They're all leaving.

i'm staying too!!

NyQuil of Doom · 11-18-2005, 08:48 PM

Like I said, I'm not leaving. Yet.

Demonista_Ravenesque · 11-18-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKorovaMilkbar

You know what.

Here's what I have to say. Ignore it if you want but I'm gonna say it anyway.

How can you all just give up and leave? Is this something you would do in real life? I have a policy not to give up when life throws me a curveball, and believe me it has saved me countless times. I have grown to care what actually happens on this board regardless if any of us have met face to face or not.

Don't just give up. Why would you just up and leave those you care about here just because of a few assholes? It's like leaving your friends to deal with the rabid dogs without your help.

I'm dissappointed in the fact that you could give up so easily when faced with a fixable problem.

Well, I'm gonna stay, be it alone or not, and flame and bash every single idiot into submission if that's what it takes to get this board back on track. Because I like speaking to intelligent people, be it online or not.

Hear hear Korova! hear hear...

AlKilyu · 11-18-2005, 10:10 PM

I'm still here!

I can attest that it is a baaaaaaaad idea to quote the trolls before you send them hopping over the fence with their asses in their hands. I won't say why it's bad, and maybe what I know was an isolated event, but you have to trust me do NOT quote them!

TheKorovaMilkbar · 11-18-2005, 11:53 PM

Good, I'm really glad to know there are still good people here. I was beginning to feel alone in my ideals.

I was pretty frustrated today when I started posting all over the board. But now I'm feeling more calm.

Jane13 · 11-19-2005, 08:46 AM

alright... korova, Al, Mr... you've convinced me. I'm coming back, but not full force. See ya when I see ya.

11-19-2005, 11:37 AM

I guess I'll stick around a bit, cause well, I love you guys (in the best way the internet can allow and not in a stalker-y) and I do love this board.

Well that AND cause Al's here.

Cause it's not a party unless yah got AL in mix, ya dig?

ghostposts · 11-19-2005, 03:05 PM

And E_fuckin' E is back!

11-19-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostposts

And E_fuckin' E is back!

:o And that too of course........I heart you edible.

11-19-2005, 04:28 PM

I hate to sound like a broken record...but I would really like all my (inespecially) poetry removed. Perhaps I didn't make that very clear before...perhaps?

11-19-2005, 05:26 PM

Question: if I were to start a forum in yahoo or msn groups, would any of you be interested? It would be by invitation only. 18+ and all rights are retained by the author as I agree with TStone on this matter. While I agree with TheKorovaMilkbar that we don't need to leave, I also feel that there is no harm in looking for, if not creating an alternative. There are over 5000 members here, most of which don't post or participate. I would sooner be part of an active group than one full of spectators.

That's my thoughts, what are yours?

11-19-2005, 05:56 PM

Just subscribing to the thread. Nothing to see here. Please move along, go back to your homes. Haven't you seen a girl subscribe to a thread before. I did warn you not to read it, lol.

angleangel_doom · 11-19-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by punkirony

This site has changed so much during my year here. I came here loving it and the members but now...things changed WAY too much. I thank most of you for being friends with me. You are awesome people.

What has been done to Xng was extremely wrong and unnessecary. Also, her being ignored was stepping over the friendly boundries of Gothic.net. The URL of this site may be "gothic.net" but this is no longer that site that I came to as a newb. No. This place is worse. It's no longer a fun place to meet people. We're too busy fighting of retarted newbs to have to once enjoyed fun.

Grow up everyone and realize what you are doing and what has been done. So..

Goodbye

Allow me to fill you in.
Someone started this thread to Remod xnguela and somewhere along the way she was under some tiff from the Mods and was temporarily banned for some reason or another and during that time:
NOBODY COULD SEE HER POSTS.
Now that she's not banned ( I think) we can see them loud and clear but can't exactly go back and edit all our post in the thread or else...well...that'd just be retarded.
There you go, is that better?
I hope so....0_o

punkirony · 11-19-2005, 06:21 PM

I already knew that.
And I return when my dear edible_eye returns..So I guess I'm back? I don't know. But as Jane said herself...I will also not be coming back full force. You people need to get your shit together.

Jane13 · 11-19-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Juliet Bathory

It would be by invitation only. 18+ and all rights are retained by the author as I agree with TStone on this matter.

Why 18+ if it's invitation only and the under-18-year-old is invited? I can understand the need to cut down on teenagers, though... I go to a public highschool and a lot of us really suck.