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The diminishing understanding of the Gothic roots.
Posted 12-04-2009 at 11:49 AM by Tam Li Hua
[QUOTE=Emerald;586566]Yeah this, basically. My main issue with the whole "I hate the poseurs ruining the scene because *insert reason no. umpteen dozen and one* is because it's verging on taking this all way too seriously. I do agree it can be annoying to see the mainstream media putting out their stereotyped images, and reports, and then kids thinking being Goth means you have to folow some set of ultimate rules of Gawth about how to apply your eyeliner, and practice looking apathetic and disaffected. *note the sarcasm* But, you know, so long as those same kids aren't all up in my face, pulling a Gother Than Thou attitude, it's not exactly like I'm gonna start waving my walking stick at them and screaming, "Damn kids, get off lawn."
Really, in a way, this whole, you're a poseur, you're not a 'real' Goth if you don't do/say/dress/act etc whatever way a 'real' Goth is supposed to, is the antithesis of what the early Goth scene was supposedly trying to achieve.
Goth was never supposed to take itself seriously. From my understanding at least, the Goth scene formed out of the remnants of an increasingly commercialised punk scene. Some of the those people who had been part of the original punk movement wanted to get back that sense of irreverence, and fun, and irony, and 'do it yourself' type attitude. It was never meant to be this big elite club where only the worthy were allowed to join, and lay claim to the title. If you look at some of the old footage, and pictures of the Batcave there are all sorts of people there. Punks, new romantic types, people in just plain old jeans and t-shirt, people who were more dressed up in a darkly artistic way. And it was all good. You didn't have the Goth Police raiding the clubs to check to make sure someone's hair was just the right shade of black, and their shirt had the correct number of ruffles on it.
Basically, this is what the 'Goth Scene' is to me. A musical subculture based around a style of music, that developed out the British Punk scene in the late 70's. Everything else is secondary to that. If you're a fan of, and listen to the music of the subculture, then you're a Goth. Regardless of whether you shop at Hot Topic, and happen to own a few Evanescence CD's in your collection.
Some may disagree, of course. This is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
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Really, in a way, this whole, you're a poseur, you're not a 'real' Goth if you don't do/say/dress/act etc whatever way a 'real' Goth is supposed to, is the antithesis of what the early Goth scene was supposedly trying to achieve.
Goth was never supposed to take itself seriously. From my understanding at least, the Goth scene formed out of the remnants of an increasingly commercialised punk scene. Some of the those people who had been part of the original punk movement wanted to get back that sense of irreverence, and fun, and irony, and 'do it yourself' type attitude. It was never meant to be this big elite club where only the worthy were allowed to join, and lay claim to the title. If you look at some of the old footage, and pictures of the Batcave there are all sorts of people there. Punks, new romantic types, people in just plain old jeans and t-shirt, people who were more dressed up in a darkly artistic way. And it was all good. You didn't have the Goth Police raiding the clubs to check to make sure someone's hair was just the right shade of black, and their shirt had the correct number of ruffles on it.
Basically, this is what the 'Goth Scene' is to me. A musical subculture based around a style of music, that developed out the British Punk scene in the late 70's. Everything else is secondary to that. If you're a fan of, and listen to the music of the subculture, then you're a Goth. Regardless of whether you shop at Hot Topic, and happen to own a few Evanescence CD's in your collection.
Some may disagree, of course. This is just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
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