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09-12-2011, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Elystan
Off the top of my head, Timbuktu.
Umm I don't think you know what evolutionary drift means. Also mixed race children aren't sterile.
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Sick 'em, Ely!
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09-12-2011, 01:19 PM
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09-12-2011, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
People can still hate on something imaginary. Someone can hate me because I don't worship their God, doesn't make their hate or malice less real. Just makes racism a lot more stupid, doesn't it?
Sorry, you're going to have to provide reliable sources. Got a peer reviewed article you could share, not some bigot's opinion?
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If you bothered to listen to it you would know it's not opinion. Whould the peer review have to be non-white so that no matter what I provide you can't call bigot?
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09-12-2011, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Awake Knights
Again, like I said, it's up to you to decide. I don't see how it's racist to say there are plenty of studies to support a claim and that I don't need guns as an example. But so be it.
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Well, I'm deciding you're a bigotted moron.
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09-12-2011, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elystan
Off the top of my head, Timbuktu.
Umm I don't think you know what evolutionary drift means. Also mixed race children aren't sterile.
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Yet. Time and isolation.
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09-12-2011, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Grausamkeit
Well, I'm deciding you're a bigotted moron.
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Stop discriminating against the poor defenceless heterosexual white male. He needs all the helping hands he can get in life. Oh why can't it be more fair? All he wants is for people to treat him with the same respect as they would a black lesbian.
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09-12-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Elystan
Stop discriminating against the poor defenceless heterosexual white male. He needs all the helping hands he can get in life. Oh why can't it be more fair? All he wants is for people to treat him with the same respect as they would a black lesbian.
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Really? How many times should we kick him in the face with our cleats, then? He did want 'equality', right?
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09-12-2011, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elystan
Stop discriminating against the poor defenceless heterosexual white male. He needs all the helping hands he can get in life. Oh why can't it be more fair? All he wants is for people to treat him with the same respect as they would a black lesbian.
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You are SO right because OBVIOUSLY black lesbians are knee fucking deep in respect as everyone knows. El, you are voice of reason in this thread.
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09-12-2011, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MissCheyenne
You are SO right because OBVIOUSLY black lesbians are knee fucking deep in respect as everyone knows. El, you are voice of reason in this thread.
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Thanks but I'll give that one to Saya, I'm just the voice of wit.
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09-12-2011, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elystan
Stop discriminating against the poor defenceless heterosexual white male. He needs all the helping hands he can get in life. Oh why can't it be more fair? All he wants is for people to treat him with the same respect as they would a black lesbian.
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I know that sarcasm can be the most fun, but you could try contributing to the conversation as well.
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09-12-2011, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Elystan
Thanks but I'll give that one to Saya, I'm just the voice of wit.
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Aww, so modest. I like it.
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09-12-2011, 01:41 PM
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It's not a 'FACT' that your race is ethnically superior, Awake Knights, mainly because the idea of 'race' is a social construct.
Starting from that simple and actual FACT, everything you deem a 'fact' is ipso facto wrong. It's like talking about superiority by phrenology claims.
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Originally Posted by KissMeDeadly
You fucking people [war veterans] are only a step below entitled rich kids, the only difference being you had to do and witness horrible things, instead of being given everything.
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real classy
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09-12-2011, 01:43 PM
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Jill SMASH!
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09-12-2011, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Awake Knights
I know that sarcasm can be the most fun, but you could try contributing to the conversation as well.
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Right right, sorry. You want to be treated with greater respect.
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Originally Posted by MissCheyenne
Aww, so modest. I like it.
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Oh stop you're making me blush
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09-12-2011, 01:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
It's not a 'FACT' that your race is ethnically superior, Awake Knights, mainly because the idea of 'race' is a social construct.
Starting from that simple and actual FACT, everything you deem a 'fact' is ipso facto wrong. It's like talking about superiority by phrenology claims.
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(social construction) A concept or practice that may appear natural and obvious to those who accept it, but that in reality is an invention of a particular culture or society.
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races, plural
1.Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics
These are contradictory. If a social construct is false then it can be proven so. If races have distict physical characteristics, than this can be proven by science with empirical evidence (which it can).
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09-12-2011, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Elystan
Right right, sorry. You want to be treated with greater respect.
Oh stop you're making me blush
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I'm not really concerned with how you speak to me. Your contribution to the conversation more reflects on you...
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09-12-2011, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Awake Knights
(social construction) A concept or practice that may appear natural and obvious to those who accept it, but that in reality is an invention of a particular culture or society.
noun
races, plural
1.Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics
These are contradictory. If a social construct is false then it can be proven so. If races have distict physical characteristics, than this can be proven by science with empirical evidence (which it can).
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Reality is a social construct. This can be difficult to grasp.
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09-12-2011, 01:55 PM
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#93
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Originally Posted by Awake Knights
I'm not really concerned with how you speak to me. Your contribution to the conversation more reflects on you...
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And the ladies love it!
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09-12-2011, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Awake Knights
If you bothered to listen to it you would know it's not opinion. Whould the peer review have to be non-white so that no matter what I provide you can't call bigot?
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A peer reviewed study by white people would be a huge improvement over a guy who's afraid of black people giving a "lecture" on youtube, yes.
And you didn't answer my question. China is the longest surviving civilization, and stands economically to crush competition and emerge the largest super power. If that happens, will you acknowledge yourself as part of an inferior race?
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09-12-2011, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Awake Knights
(social construction) A concept or practice that may appear natural and obvious to those who accept it, but that in reality is an invention of a particular culture or society.
noun
races, plural
1.Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics
These are contradictory. If a social construct is false then it can be proven so. If races have distict physical characteristics, than this can be proven by science with empirical evidence (which it can).
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Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. Linguists are better judges of racial issues than anthropologists and sociologists.
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09-12-2011, 01:57 PM
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09-12-2011, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Saya
A peer reviewed study by white people would be a huge improvement over a guy who's afraid of black people giving a "lecture" on youtube, yes.
And you didn't answer my question. China is the longest surviving civilization, and stands economically to crush competition and emerge the largest super power. If that happens, will you acknowledge yourself as part of an inferior race?
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Never mind the Chinese, check out the average IQ on Jews! Gods chosen people right there.
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09-12-2011, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Elystan
And the ladies love it!
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Oh yes, we love your huge contribution...
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09-12-2011, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elystan
Never mind the Chinese, check out the average IQ on Jews! Gods chosen people right there.
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Quiet you, he might try to reclaim them as white.
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09-12-2011, 02:02 PM
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Here let me do more fun things with statistics:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...e2378c5c82acfd
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Studies going back over 50 years have repeatedly arrived at the same conclusion -- racists have lower IQs than non-racists. The average intelligence quotient (IQ) of all members of the human race is 100 on the Stanford-Binet scale. The average IQ of racists is up to 4 IQ points less than this (Montagu 1952 & 1988, Allport 1946, Frenkel-Brunswick and Sanford 1945). The reasons this is true are not entirely clear. Does racism attract the unintelligent or do the unintelligent default into racist mentalities? An exploration of this phenomenon can be most informative.
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