Firearms - Page 3

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-23-2008, 07:51 PM

Preach it brother gunnie preach it

Godslayer Jillian · 08-23-2008, 07:52 PM

Humane, I have to ask, why are you so confrontational with Vex?

HumanePain · 08-23-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Humane, I have to ask, why are you so confrontational with Vex?

I was initially when he made a personal attack on Crimson, but I apologized and so did he, so we have buried the hatchet.

In this thread, I did not think I was being confrontational to Sir Vex, merely answering his question. Did my response seem harsh?

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-23-2008, 08:06 PM

Just because Vex doesn't like the thought of folks owning guns dosn't mean that others on here hate them.

I actually like to hear from gun owners in the Goth and Punk Scenes.

Godslayer Jillian · 08-23-2008, 08:15 PM

It was just the act of directly addressing him. Normally someone would have said something like "guns are not nearly as harmful and disgusting as nukes and tanks", while you said "direct your disgust that direction [towards nukes and tanks]"
It's a slight difference, but the wording says that you had issues with Vex, which is obvious from other threads.

Cicero · 08-23-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir_Vex

I've been disgusted for a good long time by guns on the principle that their created with the intent of harm.

x2

The disgust is pretty well distributed towards nukes and tanks also. Nothing used in modern warfare gains any interest or respect from me.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-23-2008, 10:26 PM

So you think it's better for folks to hack people to death with swords and axes then?

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-23-2008, 10:42 PM

Back on topic... Taurus Model 941 22. mag

http://www.taurususa.com/products/pr...egory=Revolver

And the Taurus Model 94

http://www.taurususa.com/products/pr...egory=Revolver

I'm thinking of dressing them up with a set of grips from A-Jax I'm thinking something in a checkered service or Faux-Ivory.

HumanePain · 08-23-2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

It was just the act of directly addressing him. ...
It's a slight difference, but the wording says that you had issues with Vex, which is obvious from other threads.

Shrewd observation! I am obviously not "done" with it yet at the subconscious level.

I shall remember to make extra effort to address him with courtesy. Thanks for pointing that out.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-23-2008, 11:09 PM

A pretty cool site.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/

medbh4805 · 08-24-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

So you think it's better for folks to hack people to death with swords and axes then?

I think the best thing would not be to kill people at all. :/

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 12:47 AM

I don't think it's good to kill folks either (Hope for the best prepare for the worst),but there are times when it comes down to survival.

Saya · 08-24-2008, 12:52 AM

Thats what self defense classes are for. No one can take your kung fu away from you and turn it agaisnt you.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 12:56 AM

If anyone gets that close they'll have hell to pay,I'm a good shot and I know handgun retention tactics,if that fails I go to my knife or back up gun,and it would pretty well end there.

Kung-Fu is pretty useless if you're facing down multiple attackers.

Splintered · 08-24-2008, 12:57 AM

Kung Fu also doesn't reach out to 50 yards, or stop a man in his tracks 20 feet away from you. Martial Arts don't hold a candle to how powerful a firearm can be.

Saya · 08-24-2008, 12:58 AM

Didn't you already tell us a few times that a gun has been turned on you?

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 01:00 AM

Even Bruce Lee knew that Martial Arts while fine for movies and fitness aren't that great when stacked up against a loaded 45.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 01:01 AM

And I disarmed her before she could react (Plus she was a newbie and underestimated how quick these big hands can move)

Another factor is Mindset.

She let me get too close.

Sir_Vex · 08-24-2008, 01:02 AM

That was in no way meant to be an attack. It was me admitting my ignorance of understanding the appeal, and explaining my ignorance.

I'm also not saying that user him/herself is dangerous, I'm saying that firearms are created with the intent of harm.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 01:04 AM

I agree with you on that vex but it also falls to the persons using said weapon,and their intent with said weapon.

Saya · 08-24-2008, 01:06 AM

Yes, but thats not what I'm saying. As a self defense option, martial arts is the safest way to go. Aside from the obvious of no one can turn it agaisnt you, you are disciplined, have less of a chance of killing the other person or the mayor's dogs, more cool headed, and will get you out of most of the more likely situations you are going to get into when you need violence, like lets say a creepy guy tries to drag you off somewhere.

Splintered · 08-24-2008, 01:09 AM

Here's an interesting scenario to think about.

A guy breaks in to your house with a gun. He already has a firearm, despite how illegal it may be. (He's a criminal, what does he care about the law for?)

You've got two options: You can reach for your firearm, or you can use your bear hands/melee weapon of your choice. Which do you go for? The firearm is almost always the choice. Why? Because it equalizes the difference between everyone, shy of those who are mentally ill.

In a hand to hand combat situation, who is going to win? Angry robber or pregnant lady? The pregnant lady will almost always lose. However, put a gun in their hand, and the pregnant lady suddenly has an advantage over the criminal. Even if the criminal obtains a gun, they are still equal.

How about the scenario where the old geyser who lives on his own? If some young punk breaks in to his house, he's pretty much left defenseless. Put a Remington in his hands, and he's safe for life.

Martial Arts depend on your body being ready and physically fit to go. A gun doesn't. It depends on you only being willing enough to pull the trigger. Martial Arts are great, but guns can not do a lot more.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 01:15 AM

Saya have you even seen a picture of me? (I posted several in the picture post thread)

Most folks are scared shitless looking me in the eye face to face.

I also try to be alert enough to avoid trouble and handle it the best way I can if it comes looking for me.

Saya · 08-24-2008, 01:15 AM

Well considering the idea that IF I had a gun, I'd keep it locked up somewhere responsibly, so I probably wouldn't be able to retrieve at the drop of the pin in the middle of the night with a guy standing over me with a gun. So I'd probably have to cooperate and let him take my stuff. I'd miss my stuff but at least no one would have to die over it.

And why does the scenario with the old geyser make me think he's going to end up shooting anybody who walks in?

Deadmanwalking_05 · 08-24-2008, 01:18 AM

That's why some have opted for these bad boys

http://www.discounthomeoffice.com/in...roducts_id=324

They can be mounted just about anywhere for quick access.