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Old 06-28-2010, 08:02 AM   #1
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Arrow internet makes u stoopid

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i'm not gonna write out the whole thing but he postulates that technology is making us all stupid shallow thinkers. i thought it most appropriate to tell my dear forum about this as i see we are all (most of us ne way) examples of big thinking technological addicts. anythoughts?
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:41 AM   #2
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TBH, he sounds like all the other arrogant, 'old-man' douchebags who hate anything new.

Human beings are no smarter or dumber than we used to be.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:18 AM   #3
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TBH, he sounds like all the other arrogant, 'old-man' douchebags who hate anything new.

Human beings are no smarter or dumber than we used to be.
I disagree. It used to be common practice for some cultures to sacrifice people to invisible beings in the sky. Now those cultures simply obsess over soccer. We've grown more intelligent, if by only slightly.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:20 AM   #4
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:45 AM   #5
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^ your pic karl marx???
Yes, and your spelling is atrocious.

We are pointing out obvious things, right?
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:48 AM   #6
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Just today Cracked.com was saying the exact opposite.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...-dementia.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...id=your-ibrain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...chologist.html
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:02 AM   #7
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The internet is the transfer of information. The transfer of information cannot be responsible for stupidity, only the information transferred and how it is used.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:38 AM   #8
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I would congecture that the Internet has had a positive effect (overall) on my "intelligence".

I've been arguing on different web forums since I was seventeen, and you can actually chart my maturity via various posts I've made over the years.

Slowly, I changed from a naive young Republican, to an even more naive libertarian, to a (somewhat) mature atheist liberal.

I don't mean to confuse political standing with "intelligence", but in alot of ways the Internet forced me to become a more critical thinker and expanded my horizons because people were more confrontational with me than they would be irl.

Basically, learning to argue in a vacum where context is somewhat irrelevant, and only ideas themselves have value has helped me to re-examine my stances and prejudices, and purge from them rhetoric and emotion.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:45 AM   #9
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The internet becomes an extension of our minds. If we use it stupidly, such as online gambling and online psychic readings, it enhances our folly (unless these are used purely for entertainment, my issue is with those who take it seriously). If we use it wisely it enriches our lives.

Being middle aged I find that Gnet for example helps me to keep in sync (well, almost) with the current generations, to enjoy the new music and art of younger people, and to learn their opinions and thoughts. I can also of course learn much about past wisdom; I learned about Samuel Johnson and Oscar Wilde online.

People gravitate towards those parts of the internet strata that their minds can handle, and remember: the majority of the population is not as intelligent as the average long term Gnetter. Unfortunately this explains why there are so many porn sites. The masses are asses, or should I say, the masses are after asses.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:47 AM   #10
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I would congecture that the Internet has had a positive effect (overall) on my "intelligence".

I've been arguing on different web forums since I was seventeen, and you can actually chart my maturity via various posts I've made over the years.

Slowly, I changed from a naive young Republican, to an even more naive libertarian, to a (somewhat) mature atheist liberal.

I don't mean to confuse political standing with "intelligence", but in alot of ways the Internet forced me to become a more critical thinker and expanded my horizons because people were more confrontational with me than they would be irl.

Basically, learning to argue in a vacum where context is somewhat irrelevant, and only ideas themselves have value has helped me to re-examine my stances and prejudices, and purge from them rhetoric and emotion.
Pretty much this, except I was, thankfully, never a libertarian. I've been using forums since I was 11, and interacting with adults is like a really rigorous mental hazing. Plus whenever I come across something I don't know the resources to learn about it are right in front of me.
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:06 PM   #11
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But the ''instant'' nature of texting, Twitter and YouTube was not healthy for working memory.

It's not the internet making us st00piD, it's abuse of the internet.

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2 + 3
Did you mean: 5?

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/3050049/TH...NG-HUMAN-BRAIN

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Old 06-28-2010, 12:09 PM   #12
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I would congecture that the Internet has had a positive effect (overall) on my "intelligence".

I've been arguing on different web forums since I was seventeen, and you can actually chart my maturity via various posts I've made over the years.

Slowly, I changed from a naive young Republican, to an even more naive libertarian, to a (somewhat) mature atheist liberal.

I don't mean to confuse political standing with "intelligence", but in alot of ways the Internet forced me to become a more critical thinker and expanded my horizons because people were more confrontational with me than they would be irl.

Basically, learning to argue in a vacum where context is somewhat irrelevant, and only ideas themselves have value has helped me to re-examine my stances and prejudices, and purge from them rhetoric and emotion.
Same here, although I'm more of a moderate liberal ... and I would spell conjecture, "a lot" and vacuum right!

- (Teasing only due to topic nature. I would not normally pick on your spelling because you are usually very precise with your spelling and grammar.)
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Old 06-28-2010, 02:48 PM   #13
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The internet hasn't make us any more or less stupid, it has just made it easier for idiots to get their voices heard.
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Old 06-28-2010, 05:38 PM   #14
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There's much truth in that.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:25 PM   #15
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I LOVE your avi Ben... Iz want tu marryz her.... @.@ can I haz a cheezeburgur?

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Old 06-28-2010, 10:34 PM   #16
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And there we have our answer. It's not the internet that makes you stupid.

It's porn.

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Old 06-28-2010, 10:56 PM   #17
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Same here, although I'm more of a moderate liberal ... and I would spell conjecture, "a lot" and vacuum right!

- (Teasing only due to topic nature. I would not normally pick on your spelling because you are usually very precise with your spelling and grammar.)
Yeah, I typed that post on my mobile.
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