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11-05-2008, 10:07 AM
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Voltaire banned at my school.
No not that one, the musician. xD
Well I was moping about on a bench in my school campus, reading a book and listening to Voltaire - God Thinks, on my iPod (product placement!) when my Philosophy and Ethics teacher comes up to me and asks what I'm up to. I say that I'm reading some Baudelaire and I'm listening to Voltaire. Immediately, he demands to look at my iPod, and plays the song again. Then, he gets really mad because apparently the song is "offensive" and says that if he finds me or anyone else listening to him, their mp3 players will be confiscated.
Uh, I'm not really sure where this is going, I just really needed to vent...
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11-05-2008, 10:09 AM
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Why didn't you say "No."?
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11-05-2008, 10:24 AM
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I'm fairly certain that that's entirely illegal. You weren't blasting it through speakers for the entire campus to hear, were you?
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11-05-2008, 10:52 AM
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Frankly what you listen to in the privacy of your own ears via your own property ( Ipod) is your business. And you can and should tell him so ( after school perhaps so he can't give you any sort of official reprimand for saying so , makes life easier ) . Just say it calmly and politely, and don't get worked up. Even if you were listening during school hours ( albeit on a break or lunch ) what you were listening to is still none of his business. You weren't bothering anyone or playing the music out loud so he has no reason to have a problem with it.
However, it may be that the song bothers him because he is perhaps religious? Even so, it is still not his business as , again you were listening to it privately.
Just tell him so. I certainly would!
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11-05-2008, 10:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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No, it's not illegal.
It is stupid, though.
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11-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Albany, NY
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You're probably right. High school seems like an eternity ago to me. We didn't even have ipods then. Portable CD players just seem so bulky now....
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11-05-2008, 11:08 AM
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If your philosophy and ethics teacher is that tight-assed about what's okay and what's not, I'd recommend doing some reading outside of class.
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11-05-2008, 11:08 AM
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Elysiume, I'm with honeythorn, go and talk to him about it. It's ridiculous.
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11-05-2008, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Your mother.
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God knows!
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11-05-2008, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Luxembourg
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Keep listening to it and rename the songs as well as the artist.
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11-05-2008, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Voltaire Offensive!
Than he should band kids from listening to rap, pop, metal,....Dude, just about every genre has something offesive in it.
Keep listening. You weren't doing anything wrong.
Unless you're teacher said before hand, no listening to ipods during class or else they will be taken away....he shouldn't tell you what you listen to.
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11-05-2008, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by JCC
Why didn't you say "No."?
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Because there's no arguing with people like him. He's always pulling crap like this, like trying to get books taken out of the library and if you say something he disagrees with in an essay or in class he just says "No, you're wrong." I mean philosophy and ethics is pretty subjective, right?
Bah. Most teachers are like that anyway.
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11-05-2008, 06:24 PM
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You were gladly reading Baudelaire. You should have gotten your iPod confiscated just to make you unhappy.
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11-05-2008, 08:28 PM
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Go above his head. Do you not have any "cool" teachers at your school? Report him to your guidance councilor. If that doesn't work, talk to the VP, then the principal. If all else fails, talk to your school board. They are the ultimate say in what is and is not allowed on school campus. Try not to make it a 'ban all mp3 players' case, and you should be good to go.
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11-05-2008, 08:59 PM
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It sounds like the dude needs to find something better to do with his time. Just walking up to random students to see if they are listening to something he approves of?
I'd go talk to someone in administration to let them know I wasn't comfortable with how personally involved he's getting before it goes somewhere really not good.
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11-05-2008, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Elysiume
No not that one, the musician. xD
Well I was moping about on a bench in my school campus, reading a book and listening to Voltaire - God Thinks, on my iPod (product placement!) when my Philosophy and Ethics teacher comes up to me and asks what I'm up to. I say that I'm reading some Baudelaire and I'm listening to Voltaire. Immediately, he demands to look at my iPod, and plays the song again. Then, he gets really mad because apparently the song is "offensive" and says that if he finds me or anyone else listening to him, their mp3 players will be confiscated.
Uh, I'm not really sure where this is going, I just really needed to vent...
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Philosophy and ethics teacher said that?
My guess that he's done this on purpose in order for you to walk off and reflect on this philisophical dilema, and then come back with an answer to counter his argument.
It's what Philosophy and Ethics teachers do.
Or he could just be an arse hole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal...ins_of_thought
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11-05-2008, 09:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
Philosophy and ethics teacher said that?
My guess that he's done this on purpose in order for you to walk off and reflect about this philisophical dilema, and then come back with an answer to counter his argument.
It's what Philosophy and Ethics teachers do.
Or he could just be an arse hole.
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Now that I read that, I second that. At first, I just thought the latter, but your first idea's much more observant.
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11-05-2008, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HellforgedX
Go above his head. Do you not have any "cool" teachers at your school? Report him to your guidance councilor. If that doesn't work, talk to the VP, then the principal. If all else fails, talk to your school board. They are the ultimate say in what is and is not allowed on school campus. Try not to make it a 'ban all mp3 players' case, and you should be good to go.
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My friends and I talked to those people about an emotionally abusive teacher, and they did ABSOLUTELY SHIT.
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11-05-2008, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LaBelleDameSansMerci
My friends and I talked to those people about an emotionally abusive teacher, and they did ABSOLUTELY SHIT.
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teachers, like prison guards and jews, always stick together.
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11-05-2008, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
teachers, like prison guards and jews, always stick together.
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This stereotype sounds like a racist's speech to me.
It's called "close kinship" and not only jews but most of the asian family as well.
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11-05-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by $haDe
This stereotype sounds like a racist's speech to me.
It's called "close kinship" and not only jews but most of the asian family as well.
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My father was Jewish.
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11-05-2008, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann
My father was Jewish.
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So it's not how they 'have' to stick together,then.
It's kinship or tradition.
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11-05-2008, 10:11 PM
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Oh! and I apologize if the "racist" is offensive.
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11-05-2008, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Originally Posted by $haDe
So it's not how they 'have' to stick together,then.
It's kinship or tradition.
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What are you? Some sort of proffesional bore? Are you just looking for trouble?
Well are you?
Do you want trouble from me?
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11-05-2008, 10:35 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Harlem
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LoL!!!!!!!!!
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