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Old 03-14-2007, 10:55 PM   #1
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New Zealand

I noticed we have a American thread and a Iraq thread but no NZ thread...quite sad.
So I made this one...Its for talking about New Zealand.
(New Zealand is a country below Australia(you know LOTR ).)
Overall we are quite cool =p.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:49 PM   #2
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Overall we are quite cool =p.
That's why there was no thread for your country. No news is good news. You should be proud.

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Old 03-15-2007, 01:50 PM   #3
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I would love to visit New Zealand someday, hopefully sooner than later. I seems like a beautiful country. Maybe I'll hang out with some Maoris while I'm there or something.
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I first went to NZ in 1999. I rented a motorcycle and rode around the South Island for a few weeks. On an off road motorcycle trip, I flipped myself over the handlebars trying to avoid hitting some goats and cracked two ribs. Wrenched my knee up pretty badly, too.

Three days later, camped out by the Fox glacier, I sliced my finger open really badly. I swear there are NO hospitals on the South Island! I had to stitch up my own finger. It took five stitches to close the cut.

Oh, and it rained almost the entire time, as it tends to anytime i travel by motorcycle. I had a limp for two weeks after i got home, and my leathers actually got MOLDY from being constantly wet.

It was the best vacation of my life.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:23 PM   #5
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*Scritch Scritch*

I should've seen this thread ages ago..

New Zealand indeed needs a thread all for ourselves. We have produced plenty of grand contributions to advance society.

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We are the best Sailors in the world.

Some of the best inventions in the world were made by New Zealanders.

We have some of the best athletes in the world.

Our Special Armed Services or SAS are the BEST in the world.

The dude that was behind NASA was a Kiwi (Atleast I believe so, no data on that to date...)

We gave women the right to vote before EVERYONE ELSE!

We hate nukes... And were the first to become a nuclear free countries.

The only real negative thing I can think of is Russel Crowe...

Oh yeah, we invented the Hamilton Jet too!

Not bad for a country with only 4 million people + to date...
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:13 PM   #6
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So if you're such great sailors, why is it called the America' s Cup?


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Old 07-19-2007, 04:21 PM   #7
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Kiwi for teh win!
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So one Kiwi said to another, "oh, how times flies and we don't".

*and ducks from the incoming tomatos*
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:27 PM   #9
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You know how sometimes a joke is so NOT funny, you can't but laugh...?
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You know how sometimes a joke is so NOT funny, you can't but laugh...?
Yes, my specialty.

Anyway, to be ontopic, I've always wanted to visit NZ. There seems to be some pretty awesome stretches of nature there.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:34 PM   #11
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A friend used to go there every year. He said that ever since they shot LotR there, the tourist infestations has grown exponentially. He doesn't go anymore for that reason. The irony of him bashing tourists escaped him though.

Always wanted to see it too, at least once in my life.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:57 PM   #12
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Kiwis don't fly because they pissed off a Goddess. You don't fuck around with a Goddess and get off scot free.

It's called the America's Cup because it was started by the yanks. But we won it on a seriously low budget. Then we kept it on an even lower budget. Then the fucking Swedes came over and took our best players with cash and those players won it. Kiwis, playing for the Swedes are still KIWIS! Even if those bastards still bet us again, atleast it was the new NZ team that made it to the end to fight against those other kiwi bastards.

Meh, that was only for a year or so that everybody was captivated by LOTR. We got over it. There are much better things to do in New Zealand than go see where LOTR sites were, and I've seen the most remote parts of New Zealand and they're gorgeous.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:55 AM   #13
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We are the best Sailors in the world.
Oh, really?

Prove it!

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Some of the best inventions in the world were made by New Zealanders.
Matter of opinion. We made longships.

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Our Special Armed Services or SAS are the BEST in the world.
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The Spetsnaz have created a fierce reputation as one of the best special forces in the world today due to the very harsh standards of their training.
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We gave women the right to vote before EVERYONE ELSE!
I'd love to believe that, but due to the reliability of the rest of your "facts" I'm not so sure.

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We hate nukes... And were the first to become a nuclear free countries.
I may be wrong on this one, but I think that Norway has never had nukes.
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Oh, really?

Prove it!
Okay. Search for the America's Cup. That's usually the biggest sailing event in the whole world. We came second and the New Zealand players in the opposing team make up the majority of that team's crew. SO NGAH NGAH NGAH! Point proven.

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Matter of opinion. We made longships.
We made jetboats, the bumblebee, that damn fast motor bike AAAAND it was a New Zealand scientist, Ernest Rutherford who was the first to properly proove what the atomic structure was. Yeah yeah yeah, it changes constantly and he worked alongside some other guy. BIG DEAL! He was the first to think up the test and do the test! Without his work history as we know it wouldn't be the same... Well, some other guy would've figured it out later but the point is it was done by a NEW ZEALANDER!

...Jetboats are better than longships! Long ships were also known as a group invention by both the Danes, the Swedes and the Norse. Atleast that's what I was told when I studied the influence of the Vikings on England.

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The Spetsnaz have created a fierce reputation as one of the best special forces in the world today due to the very harsh standards of their training.
One of the best. One of the best. We're the best.

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The first unrestricted women's suffrage in terms of voting rights (women were not initially permitted to stand for election) in a self-governing country was granted in New Zealand. Following a movement led by Kate Sheppard, the women's suffrage bill was adopted mere weeks before the general election of 1893.
..... You were saying? I believe I clarified your certainty.

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I may be wrong on this one, but I think that Norway has never had nukes.
And here we have another lovely Wiki quote...

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New Zealand’s three decade anti nuclear campaign is the only successful movement of its type in the world which resulted in the nation's nuclear-free zone status being enshrined in legislation. Initial seeds were sown for New Zealand’s 1987 nuclear free Zone legislation in the late 1950s with the formation of the local Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) organisation in 1957. [3] In 1959, responding to rising public concern following the British H-Bomb tests in Australia and the Pacific, New Zealand voted in the UN to condemn nuclear testing while the UK, US and France voted against, and Australia abstained.[4] In 1961, CND urged the New Zealand government to declare it ‘will not acquire or use nuclear weapons' and to withdraw from nuclear alliances such as ANZUS. In 1963, the Auckland CND campaign submitted its ‘No Bombs South of the Line' petition to the New Zealand parliament with 80,238 signatures calling on the government to sponsor an international conference to discuss establishing a nuclear-free-zone in the southern hemisphere. It was the biggest petition in the nation since the one in 1893 which demanded that women must have the right to vote.[5]

New research in 2007 by Massey University has concluded that New Zealand sailors who were used by the British government as "human guinea pigs" in nuclear tests at Christmas Island in the 1950s, have suffered serious genetic damage.
We even suffered a terrorist attack because of our stance against nukes by the French.

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It is often speculated that the French government-sponsored terrorist act against New Zealand's sovereignty (which was ordered by former French President Mitterrand [33]) with the 1985 sinking of the Rainbow Warrior in Auckland's Waitemata Harbour, was an unnecessary act of revenge against Greenpeace and New Zealanders themselves for their successful campaigns to enforce a nuclear weapons test ban at Mururoa. When the French DGSE agents Commander Alain Mafart and Captain Dominique Prieur were captured in New Zealand and eventually sentenced to 10 years prison for their roles in sabotage of the Rainbow Warrior and manslaughter of Fernando Pereira, the French government threatened New Zealand with trade sanctions to the European Union if the pair were not released. [34] [35] From a Pacific perspective, the military attack on the Rainbow Warrior only served to consolidate New Zealand’s and the Pacific communities nuclear free zone ambitions. (Treaty of Rarotonga - South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty). The attack served to further isolate the French in that part of the world, which resulted in strong anti-French political campaigns for independence in Tahiti (French Polynesian legislative election, 2004) and New Caledonia. (Politics of New Caledonia}.[36] The differences between the French and New Zealand Governments now appear to be resolved with both countries enjoying positive trade and cultural exchanges.

Under the present New Zealand Labour Government, its Prime Minister Helen Clark maintains New Zealand’s nuclear-free zone status, a bipartisan position supported by the opposition New Zealand National Party.
Yes, Norway is free of nukes but we put it into law and we are the only country to have done so.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:25 AM   #15
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The America's was started in England. When America got the cup they kept changing the rules to give them a unfair advantige..they got it for 100 years or so and it got named the americas cup.
Oh and new zealanders are the best by far FTW!!!.
Also whats that about kiwis not flying? A large portion of kiwis actually live overseas.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:54 AM   #16
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I know, it's greatly unfortunate that they do; hence the phrase "As busy as Picidilly circus" being common in New Zealand. I meant the Bird but I'm not so sure about Methadrine.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:15 AM   #17
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We also make awesome movies just look at the one me and my friends are in ..just been posted in the movie section 0.0.
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Okay. Search for the America's Cup. That's usually the biggest sailing event in the whole world. We came second and the New Zealand players in the opposing team make up the majority of that team's crew. SO NGAH NGAH NGAH! Point proven.
So what? You won a sailing competition. Big deal. Doesn't make you the best.

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We made jetboats, the bumblebee, that damn fast motor bike AAAAND it was a New Zealand scientist, Ernest Rutherford who was the first to properly proove what the atomic structure was. Yeah yeah yeah, it changes constantly and he worked alongside some other guy. BIG DEAL! He was the first to think up the test and do the test! Without his work history as we know it wouldn't be the same... Well, some other guy would've figured it out later but the point is it was done by a NEW ZEALANDER!

...Jetboats are better than longships! Long ships were also known as a group invention by both the Danes, the Swedes and the Norse. Atleast that's what I was told when I studied the influence of the Vikings on England.
My point remains: It's a matter of opinion. I think longships are more awesome than jetboats.

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One of the best. One of the best. We're the best.
Well, then, prove it! Norwegian special ops are awesome too, and rank very high.

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We even suffered a terrorist attack because of our stance against nukes by the French.
No offense, but I don't feel like reading all that


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Yes, Norway is free of nukes but we put it into law and we are the only country to have done so.
So? Laws suck >.>
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We also make awesome movies just look at the one me and my friends are in ..just been posted in the movie section 0.0.
You've obviously never seen Svidd Neger, have you? Of course you haven't. Or Kill Buljo.
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The America's Cup Regatta is often known as the most prestigious sailing competition in the world. If your sailers win it you own bragging rights.

Why don't you want to read about the truth? They've even admitted to it recently. French bombed the ship because it was a symbol of people against their nuclear testing and they did it at the port of a nation that lawfully prevents nukes. That speaks for itself on their opinion towards our anti-nuclear stance, or should I say, their political view.

As for the SAS, I can't be bothered proving it at the moment. I need to sleep tonight and I can't bring myself to have enough energy to search the web to prove a point. I call time out.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service_of_New_Zealand
Kinda hard to prove it...like how you havent really backed up what you said...
"The New Zealand SAS is held in high regard internationally - as demonstrated by the United States Presidential Citation awarded to the NZSAS on 7 December 2004"
"Secrecy still surrounds much of the NZ SAS's operations in Afghanistan, although a Radio New Zealand news piece claimed the service had maintained a mission success rate of 100%"
"NZ SAS trackers are considered the best in the western world, and are routinely sought out by US special forces to train their units in this specialist art."
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The America's Cup Regatta is often known as the most prestigious sailing competition in the world. If your sailers win it you own bragging rights.
Alright then. What about Thor Heyerdahl?

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Why don't you want to read about the truth?
Because I've had less than 3 hours of sleep within the last 48 hours, or something like that.

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They've even admitted to it recently. French bombed the ship because it was a symbol of people against their nuclear testing and they did it at the port of a nation that lawfully prevents nukes. That speaks for itself on their opinion towards our anti-nuclear stance, or should I say, their political view.
Yeah, yeah, and we destroyed a German-controlled heavy water plant during world war 2.

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As for the SAS, I can't be bothered proving it at the moment. I need to sleep tonight and I can't bring myself to have enough energy to search the web to prove a point. I call time out.
Alright. But this is what the Wiki says: "The New Zealand SAS is held in high regard internationally." See, they don't say that they're the best any more than Spetsnaz. Or the Norwegian Jegerkommando.
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Americas cup is without doubt..(ask any serious yaughty) the most prestigious sailing competition in the world.
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Alright. But this is what the Wiki says: "The New Zealand SAS is held in high regard internationally." See, they don't say that they're the best any more than Spetsnaz. Or the Norwegian Jegerkommando.
This information is quite hard to obtain...we also have to take into account the unreliability of wikipedia.
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