I'm mentioned in the New York Times!!

Nocturne Midnight · 09-18-2008, 09:38 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/fa...=1&oref=slogin

Check it out. Tell me what you guys think of her writing. I'm on the second and third pages, while my friend Missy is on the first.

gothicusmaximus · 09-18-2008, 10:03 PM

Inflammatory misrepresentation of the subculture. Actually, I probably shouldn't say 'misrepresentation', as more and more I find that goth truly has become the confederation of insecure, pathetic teenagers this article depicts it to be. I can't believe this bullshit passes for news.
Part of who you are? Looking for a place to belong? What the fuck were you thinking?

Nocturne Midnight · 09-18-2008, 10:07 PM

I was not aware she would only be taking choice parts of our conversations. I emphasized it was more about the music than anything else. Oh well. Information manipulation. I'm just kind of stoked I'm in the news paper. And not for hitting some politician or something stupid.

gothicusmaximus · 09-18-2008, 10:11 PM

Yeah, I'm sure she was intent on portraying goth as she did before she even read anything you said. Your quote at the end was still pretty inexcusable though.

Nocturne Midnight · 09-18-2008, 10:12 PM

Apologies. I will take my 40 lashes now. *bows head*

Deadmanwalking_05 · 09-18-2008, 10:26 PM

Goth started early on as an off shoot of the Punk Movement,they kept the idea of free form DIY, thought,expression and art. (From My understanding)

The article linked above basicly dumps all over the Gothic Subculture.

Nocturne Midnight · 09-18-2008, 10:33 PM

See, that's what I told her. I explained much of the history, the roots, my own beliefs on the attitude. But, she ignored it. She was pleasant enough though.

Godslayer Jillian · 09-18-2008, 10:41 PM

Either way it was bound to fail.
Any spotlight makes goth look bad. Even if the article were to really talk about the music and stuff, goth would still suffer a blow out of it.

gothicusmaximus · 09-18-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Any spotlight makes goth look bad.

If this were another article about me, it would rule.

Renatus · 09-19-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne Midnight

Apologies. I will take my 40 lashes now. *bows head*

Put him in bed with the Captains daughter
Put him in bed with the Captains daughter
Put him in bed with the Captains daughter early in the morning

Heh that song pops in my a lot of the time when I hear someone talk about whipping.

Joker_in_the_Pack · 09-19-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne Midnight

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/fa...=1&oref=slogin

Check it out. Tell me what you guys think of her writing. I'm on the second and third pages, while my friend Missy is on the first.

The judges have voted and the results are in! *tears open envelope* In a unanimous vote, the judges have decided, Nocturne Midnight, you, my good sir, fail.

CptSternn · 09-19-2008, 01:44 AM

Eh, it could have been better, but it also could have been much worse. Maybe it wasn't spot on with many ideals and values of the scene or music, but hey, I'm sure the writer wasn't looking for that.

They wanted a glam piece for the NYT.

They chose to select 'goth' persons from MySpace and other social networking sites instead of heading to the local events, so that tells you what they wanted.

I say blame the writer, not the subject.

PortraitOfSanity · 09-19-2008, 03:13 AM

Of course I blame the writer, but like Gothicus said, Goth really has become the bunch of whiny teens that the article says it is.

Underwater Ophelia · 09-19-2008, 07:01 AM

Wait a minute...that's YOU in that picture? With the two kids near the bench?

drewsilla · 09-19-2008, 07:22 AM

Seemed like all it needed was a Hop Topic plug to make it a total and epic fail.

Nocturne Midnight · 09-19-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

Wait a minute...that's YOU in that picture? With the two kids near the bench?

No, no. I wouldn't wear something like that. I look more Mephistophelean. Also, I'm not that thin.

Also, I talked about how goth has become flooded with morons because they don't actually know anything about it and just like talking about being so dark. I talked about how shopping at Hot Topic is generally a waste of time and money because you can just DIY most of the stuff you find there. Did she listen? No.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 09-19-2008, 01:57 PM

That's because the reporter in question only wanted to put his/her own spin on things.

I really don't trust reporters as far as I could throw them,like everyone else they always seem to have a hidden agenda.

LittleStrangeling · 09-19-2008, 05:56 PM

Did you really have to say you were known as Nocturne Midnight? You honestly tell people to call you that? I don't introduce myself as a ridiculous name I came up with for the internet. If I were to be asked who I was, I'd say "I'm Megan, it's a pleasure to meet you, I'm sure."
Not to be rude or anything, but I find telling people to call you nicknames as cliche as your own quite tacky and tasteless.

I hated that article. It was a waste of my time; I'm never getting those minutes back.

I don't trust reporters either, they tend to twist things out of my favor.
Knowing the most of them, they'd probably get 'I hate the world and am going to kill everyone' out of 'I'd rather not talk to you at the moment, thanks.'

Lolly PopMuzik · 09-19-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Typical failtacular article about goffs

There are stunning examples in the show of vampiric sex appeal — e.g., a voluminous blood-red gown by John Galliano for Dior, printed with a Marquis de Sade quotation: “Is it not by murder that France is free today?” (Which, accessorized with its huge chain and cross made of railway spikes, would inspire even the Easter Bunny to absinthe and Emocore.)

But to Wendy Jenkins, vampires represent more than just a hot batch of spooky formalwear. They provide a romantic narrative for sympathizing with her own perceived abnormalities. She wrote to me: “I think vampires are freeking sweet because they have such true emotions that no mere mortals can express! I too at times think I am a vampire being with my hate of garlic and how my eyes r sensitive to light.”

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Originally Posted by The usually amusing Danielle Willis

“Gothic style should be as opulent, decadent and individual as possible,”

As much as I want to read the entire thing without prejudice, cringing once and steal that baseball bat, my right palm is too far in my face to continue. And that hand should be used for a Dolemite-style pimphanding just for that nickname shit.

Seriously, was a realistic alias too much to ask?

Mealla · 09-19-2008, 10:29 PM

The article was pretty good...for the first couple of paragraphs or so. About halfway down the first page, it loses any hope I initially had for it. The quotes are horrid, she obviously had her mind made up the way she wanted to portray the culture, I about had aneurysm when emo came up, and of course the article focuses on the appearance aspect, probably because she's writing for the Fashion and Style section of the NYT. Overall, it portrays goth as just a bunch of moody teenagers, which is sadly not too far from the reality in many cases these days.

Nocturne Midnight · 09-20-2008, 12:39 AM

I didn't ask her to put my nickname in there. I merely said that some of my online friends call me Nocturne Midnight. I was remarking how cliche it was. And she put it in anyway.

$haDe · 09-20-2008, 05:04 AM

This thread support my hate for these reporter 'n their offshoots.

When my 'incident' happened, One of them asked me if I can revealed the true inspired of nails sharpening and attacking 'christian' principle.

I said "I dont give a shit, Whether it's my nails on her face or my feet on her face"

Then, The next morning Newspaper was like all covered in a big gray article said "More example of how goth and other subculture slowly turn into cult and terrorist.In the last Wednesday, A cute lookin' street kid,who've somehow study in ........... and also the only goth,have attacked a principle of the school for being christian. Was this is the warning that these subcultures are threatening the way we're and .....blah blah blah....."

Oh and in the conclusion part they quoted my word

'I dont give a shit, Whether it's my nails on her face or my feet on her face ' said the boy. This is an example of how foreign kids turn into a group of society rejected. This boy doesn't feel guilty of attacking a woman and there is nothing can prevent other boys from doing the same better than helping from the parents. Teach them, Protec them from these foul culture and ..blah blah blah.....

I just can't type down more. Give me a break

It's in Thai, But you guys are not going to like it. Trust me
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Underwater Ophelia · 09-21-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nocturne Midnight

I didn't ask her to put my nickname in there. I merely said that some of my online friends call me Nocturne Midnight. I was remarking how cliche it was. And she put it in anyway.

Dude.
No one calls you that.

Jaye Jang · 09-21-2008, 07:56 PM

Nocturne, dude. Never trust a reporter any farther than you can see, and with reporters you're myopic. Capice. Just say, 'No comment.' However, they'll still concoct a story. It's what they get paid to do. (But, being in the NYT is cool. Congrats. As for the article, at least it wasn't total goth bashing, but seeing 'goth' on the runway is like seeing it in Wal-Mart. It makes you want to crawl under a rug).

onedarkly1 · 09-21-2008, 09:07 PM

Try not to beat yourself up to much Nocturne Midnight. A lot of times, as stated above, reporters often know what they want to write about and twist what one says.

I submitted an article to the local paper a few weeks ago and they printed it, but "edited" it, and in doing so took out some important words which changed the meaning of one of the most important paragraphs.

It happens.
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