Good metal? - Page 4

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bat Attack

Ok then, answer this, how many of bands that Eclipsing The Son listed are actually death metal?

Honestly? I didn't read it, so I really have no clue. And I don't listen to much Death Metal. Actually, I'm kind of thinking Sanguine meant "Extreme Metal" which is just an umbrella term covering Doom, Thrash, Death, and Black Metal.
Even if that's the case, the sanctity of "pretty much every" has been violated.

Sanguine Mind · 12-09-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bat Attack

Ok then, answer this, how many of the bands that Eclipsing The Son listed are actually death metal?

I meant to mention in other threads as well.

EDIT: He's on my ignore list, so I've only seen whats been quoted.

Necrophagist · 12-09-2008, 01:12 PM

When did he quote his own posts?

JCC · 12-09-2008, 01:12 PM

Led Zeppelin were not Progressive Rock, you motherfuckers outdo Holocaust deniers on the baseless historical revisionism scale, seriously.

Bat Attack · 12-09-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

Even if that's the case, the sanctity of "pretty much every" has been violated.

No it hasn't, because I don't think it is actually "pretty much every".

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 01:15 PM

I think I listed one Blackened Death Metal band in Behemoth. The rest were just metal really and too eclectic to properly place in any single genre.

Bands like Neurosis, Opeth and Ihsahn can't really be placed.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC

Led Zeppelin were not Progressive Rock, you motherfuckers outdo Holocaust deniers on the baseless historical revisionism scale, seriously.

Don't confuse Necrophagist's statements with mine. Thanks.
My statements are far from baseless. Books, Radio, Wiki all agree with me.

Bat Attack · 12-09-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipsing the Son

I think I listed one Blackened Death Metal band in Behemoth. The rest were just metal really and too eclectic to properly place in any single genre.

So Albert Mond, are you saying that "pretty much every" is ONE band? It would be if he listed ONE OR TWO bands, but he listed many more.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bat Attack

So Albert Mond, are you saying that "pretty much every" is ONE band? It would be if he listed ONE OR TWO bands, but he listed many more.

No. And, again, I haven't read the list. Why I should trust EtS, however, I don't know. If you're naive enough to believe him when he says I'm a hacker, then I'm not sure I'd like to be the sort to take his word to be of any value. But I don't feel like finding the list and looking up all the bands on it to see if they are indeed not death metal.

JCC · 12-09-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

Don't confuse Necrophagist's statements with mine. Thanks.
My statements are far from baseless. Books, Radio, Wiki all agree with me.

The weird thing is, you're the only person I've ever heard call Led Zeppelin, and even more confusingly, Grand Funk Railroad, Metal and sincerely meant it.

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 01:33 PM

Its the terrible consequence of not having good judgement of his own.

He falls for trappings like these that were laid in wait to reveal poseurs like him.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC

The weird thing is, you're the only person I've ever heard call Led Zeppelin, and even more confusingly, Grand Funk Railroad, Metal and sincerely meant it.

I've heard Zeppelin called Metal plenty of times. I was under the impression that it was a pretty widely-accepted truth. I see no reason why Sabbath is Metal to you and Zeppelin isn't. Both are held around the same place by most historians of the genre, and both were about equally heavy. The primary difference is that Sabbath had more songs about Satan, which might at first seem to make them "moar met4l" if one didn't know about all the non-Satanic metal bands. And GFR qualified back then. I see no reason why it shouldn't now, other than the changes in use of the phrase "Heavy Metal" which Stolide pointed out.

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 01:36 PM

Stolide also agreed with me and said you're wrong. So shut up.

Bat Attack · 12-09-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

But I don't feel like finding the list and looking up all the bands on it to see if they are indeed not death metal.

Well judging by your previous posts in this thread, you obviously do not know much about music genres. I've looked at them, and I say that what Sanguine Mind said was incorrect.

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 01:41 PM

The truth is out!

Albert Mond and Sanguine Mind have believed themselves to be metal fans and all this time they primarily do not listen to, recognize or enjoy metal. It's almost too sad to recognize as the truth. Yet it is.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bat Attack

Well judging by your previous posts in this thread, you obviously have no idea about music genres.

No. Not only have I provided sources to prove the commonly known, but you
fellows have provided nothing to back up your silly claims. Here's another source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=7595417

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I've looked at them, and I say that what Sanguine Mind said was incorrect.

Well, good for you. Do you want a lolli?

Bat Attack · 12-09-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

No. Not only have I provided sources to prove the commonly known, but you
fellows have provided nothing to back up your silly claims. Here's another source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=7595417

Well, good for you. Do you want a lolli?

No not really, but you're the one who challenged my post.

We don’t have to rely on sources to prove/back up our "claims". We know what we’re talking about.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bat Attack

No not really, but you're the one who challenged my post.

We don’t have to rely on sources to prove our claims. We know what we’re talking about.

And NPR doesn't? Right.
No. This is just a case of an ignorant and isolated majority going against someone who knows what they're talking about. If you actually made a point, I might believe you. So. Got sources?

JCC · 12-09-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

both were about equally heavy.

Black Sabbath downtuned.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC

Black Sabbath downtuned.

No shit. So do I. That doesn't make me Metal.

JCC · 12-09-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

No shit. So do I. That doesn't make me Metal.

You said Led Zeppelin were equally as heavy as Black Sabbath. Play in EADGBE tuning and then DADGBE and tell me which is heavier.

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 02:17 PM

I'm playing circus music in my head as I watch albert jump through all these hoops and continue to make an ass of himself.

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC

You said Led Zeppelin were equally as heavy as Black Sabbath. Play in EADGBE tuning and then DADGBE and tell me which is heavier.

DADGBE. However, as far as actual music beyond the point of tuning, they still seem equally heavy.

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

DADGBE. However, as far as actual music beyond the point of tuning, they still seem equally heavy.

You're now going beyond not knowing jack about music and diving into terrible music comprehension territory. Do you really want to be a rotten LISTENER as WELL as a terrible musician? It'd really be better to just admit you're wrong.

Necrophagist · 12-09-2008, 02:32 PM

Drop D isn't heavier, it just sounds darker, gloomer, and is used in metal often. Now Drop B, that sounds heavy.