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09-06-2007, 10:35 PM
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You see all kinds of people attending their concerts because their music is so accessible and easy to digest. He's a good singer, I'll give him that. He definitely needs someone else to write the lyrics though. They're so damned cheesy, not to mention all follow the same formula.
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09-06-2007, 10:40 PM
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well.. I dunno-- I like the lyrics but would agree there has to be a different mood in some. Also--he has progressed as time went on -his earlier lyrics were very very bad...
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09-06-2007, 10:47 PM
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I love Ville! He's a very good singer. His lyrics are getting better. Do remember that English isn't his first language! Compare his early lyrics to Shakira's early english recordings; it gets pretty funny. It also doesn't hurt that he is gorgeous!
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At some point, you need to look yourself in the mirror and realize that what other people did to you does not define you as a person. You and your actions define who you are as a person. It's up to you to be a good person, in spite of all the evil you've faced. In fact, it should be because of the evil you see that it's good you do. Be the change you want in the world. Next time someone tells me that they're an asshole because they've had a bad life, I'm stabbing them in the eye with a spork.
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09-06-2007, 10:55 PM
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I know girl--I heard the first songs and cringed--I was like, WTF????
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09-06-2007, 10:56 PM
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Oh yeah girl and high five on the Ville hotness thang!!!!!
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09-07-2007, 12:13 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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He's a drunk....who forgets his lyrics in the middle of gigs.
How sexy.
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09-07-2007, 12:19 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Fun sucker . . .
Lol. But you're right. He's also so addicted to smoking that he has to smoke while performing. Johnny Depp too.
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At some point, you need to look yourself in the mirror and realize that what other people did to you does not define you as a person. You and your actions define who you are as a person. It's up to you to be a good person, in spite of all the evil you've faced. In fact, it should be because of the evil you see that it's good you do. Be the change you want in the world. Next time someone tells me that they're an asshole because they've had a bad life, I'm stabbing them in the eye with a spork.
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09-07-2007, 01:20 AM
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Fun sucker . . .
Lol. But you're right. He's also so addicted to smoking that he has to smoke while performing. Johnny Depp too.
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Yes....YES I AM!
I'm so addicted to smoking....that I smoked in the shower when I was drunk one time....
true story.
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09-07-2007, 01:35 AM
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I'm so addicted to beer that I drink while taking a shower! Oh and I love Ville.
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09-07-2007, 01:40 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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I swear, if Ville ever got a g-net account we'd have to host the first online cyber-sex orgie
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At some point, you need to look yourself in the mirror and realize that what other people did to you does not define you as a person. You and your actions define who you are as a person. It's up to you to be a good person, in spite of all the evil you've faced. In fact, it should be because of the evil you see that it's good you do. Be the change you want in the world. Next time someone tells me that they're an asshole because they've had a bad life, I'm stabbing them in the eye with a spork.
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09-07-2007, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Blountsville, AL
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Did you hear when Ville said "I have to smoke (big number) of cigarettes every day to get this spooky voice"? Hahaha, I used to want to take up smoking for that reason too. Ville, you're encouraging kids to smoke! XD
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09-07-2007, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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Rae....I may have to replace this keyboard as it is currently swimming with an ungodly amount of dribble.
He has forgotten the words mid song due to drunkenness, we had to sing the words back at him to remind him  He has apparantly given up drinking now though, and he looks a lot better for it too. That beard has dissappeared thank the gods.
It is true you see all sorts at the shows. There are a lot of kids in CKY hats ect, but I have seen many older people and quite a few fellow goths too  The shows are always fun, even if Ville's performance isn't always up to scratch.
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09-07-2007, 04:39 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: a russian, vienna-educated, living in the Netherlands. beat that.
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He looks good (on the well photoshoped photoes and with all the make up at least), has a kick ass style (on said photos), has a great voice 8for all i know about music, which isn't much)...
But, um, there is a message in his songs? Oh I know...........wait, no I don't. Do you mean the whole OH MY BABY I AM SO DYING IN THIS BLISSFULL LOVE AND IT IS A GRAVEYARD AND ....wait, I forgot, what else was there? Oh right, I think I also remember something about love and death and graveyard.
His banal pseudo-paradox expressions such as dark-light and what not are oriented on commercial and his lyrics seem to have been put together in some three minutes following a set pattern like in a cook book. You take a HIM song, run it through a synoyme substitution and there you have another HIM song.
He's not making music, he is making money.
Some older things are good though. when he sang with the 69 eyes or the song "it's all tears"...
But message? In HIM? Please....
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09-07-2007, 05:14 PM
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A man that says something?
Says something?? Rae, have you ever had the exquisite pleasure of hearing Rogue from Cruxshadows or reading his lyrics? Every word, every statement, will touch you on some level.
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09-07-2007, 05:35 PM
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Gore-ger-us man, but not the best singer in my humble opinion. I must say I second Drac's statment. While I am a smoker as well, his influence on smoking (making it releavant and encouragment toward talent) is simply laughable.
In fact, almost rather pitiful. Ville is a good singer, but his influences are hardly believable toward his style of music in HIM. For instance, they said Ozzy Osbourne and his band are HIM's biggest influences. *Sigh* And "Love Metill" (I won't even get into the silliness of the term generally and it's mispelled on purpose) sounds nothing like any of the mans' work.
And isn't Metal supposed to be "Heavy"? The songs turn out to be nothing but lovey-dovey "Satanic" novelty music. It's like Immortal, if the band is a joke (which I originally thought they were) then they're brillant. But it's all for markets.
And honeythorn is completely correct; tastes are an utterly different thing. Someone can be involved in our scene and be very immersed toward the music; but there's a problem when someone calls HIM gothic rock. And making wrist-slitting and self-mutilation seem "cool" and "romantic"-a purpose bad influence toward anyone trying to understand our culture. I idealistically like the imagery; but the lyrics are uninspired and lack total elaboracy.
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Let me tell you 6 hundred 6-6 ways I looooovee you...
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Is among one the biggest failures in music to date. I listened to a good number of their music, from 666 Prologue to Dark Light; whether it be samples or myspace-relying abilities. Only discovering it's only getting poppier as the years and records pass and sell. I still fail to see how the lyrics are 'deep'. Enjoyable, maybe, but not to be taken as a serious band.
Reminder: It's only my opinion. And, if someone is looking for goth rock with actual gnostic influences, then pop Rozz era-Christian Death in the playlist or player, kids. Because with HIM you'll find, unless you really feel for this band, as Drac says, uninspired-novelty horror music.
This hath been a Blackthorne(TM) attempt at being diplomatic.
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09-07-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by raggedyanne
I love Ville! He's a very good singer. His lyrics are getting better. Do remember that English isn't his first language! Compare his early lyrics to Shakira's early english recordings; it gets pretty funny. It also doesn't hurt that he is gorgeous!
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Wait, which songs of Shakira's are you referencing...? Nearly every song I've heard of hers is brilliant.
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09-07-2007, 06:19 PM
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Also I don't think he's good looking in the least.
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09-07-2007, 07:16 PM
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I love Ville, and HIM is funny to listen to. I like it when I'm writing papers at 3 in the morning because it is good background noise. But other than that, it's good white noise or pop-ish music when I just want to relax.
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09-07-2007, 07:48 PM
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Well--Okay..okay... live--I am like DUDE PUT THE FUCKING CIG AND BEER DOWN and sing goddamn your hide--step AWAY from the nicotine--
he is gonna kill his throat, I know it, dumb wanker
What he is doing is messing his vocal cords up, which is why the gravely vox thing even happens...
And his earlier stuff sucked...I don't like it all that much--much prefer the newer stuff
As for influences--you would be surprised at mine--my stuff is melodic but there are some heavy guys in the mix--like Metallica....
In my humble o' metal is a feel and not a sound per se
Kontan, I'd love to hear of this music of which you speak..
Vyvian--I always love your contributions, even if I don't agree-- always brilliant and well thought out!
But I DON'T agree with yah though....*shrugs*
But I do think there is a message in the madness--if one gets it they do--if they don't, they don't..
Opheila How--how..how...how can you not love... I mean....
*thrust a picture at you*
COME ON!
It's Ville dude-- and he's FROM THE NETHERLANDS....
*starts crying*
Life is sooo cruel....
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09-07-2007, 08:28 PM
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Rae, right now, the best song by Cruxshadows that I can reccomend is "Eye of The Storm". Give it a good honest listen. Sure, enjoy the neat dancy EBMish beats and the cool violin, but LISTEN to the words. This dude speaks of love in ways that ALMOST fills you with both shame and hope.
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09-07-2007, 09:09 PM
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hey--send that to my yahoo address--you have that right????
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09-07-2007, 09:19 PM
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Yes....YES I AM!
I'm so addicted to smoking....that I smoked in the shower when I was drunk one time....
true story.
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haggard doll...really???
*raises eyebrows*
do tell...
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09-07-2007, 10:04 PM
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Rae, right now, the best song by Cruxshadows that I can reccomend is "Eye of The Storm". Give it a good honest listen. Sure, enjoy the neat dancy EBMish beats and the cool violin, but LISTEN to the words. This dude speaks of love in ways that ALMOST fills you with both shame and hope.
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I love that song....it's currently one of my favourite songs from Cruxshadows right now. Listen to it, maybe about 5 times a day, if not even more. XD That, and " Birthday " But my favourite will always remain " Foreverlast ". Thanks to Cruxshadows, I easily memorized " Jabberwocky " and gained much attention while recieting during work. =p
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09-07-2007, 10:08 PM
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I can't wait to take a listen then....
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