We are... The Haters. - Page 6

Anarasha · 11-26-2009, 08:41 AM

Solumina: Food addiction is something that runs in our family. So you basically blame me for how I was born? And now you blame me for trying to do something about it?
You are a fantastic person.

Joker_in_the_Pack · 11-26-2009, 08:44 AM

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Solumina: Food addiction is something that runs in our family. So you basically blame me for how I was born? And now you blame me for trying to do something about it?
You are a fantastic person.

Alcoholism runs in my family, and yet I am able to casually enjoy drinks without any dependency. Don't blame genes for your total lack of will power.

JCC · 11-26-2009, 08:52 AM

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Yeah, and I blame drug addicts as much as I do food addicts when they fuck themselves up.

I don't. Drugs are physically addictive: apart from the fact that the larger you get, the more food you're going to want to sustain yourself, food addiction is all mental.

Joker_in_the_Pack · 11-26-2009, 09:14 AM

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I don't. Drugs are physically addictive: apart from the fact that the larger you get, the more food you're going to want to sustain yourself, food addiction is all mental.

Fair point, but nobody forced the drug addict to take drugs.

JCC · 11-26-2009, 09:25 AM

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Fair point, but nobody forced the drug addict to take drugs.

Not every drug user becomes an addict, and it is very difficult to tell people to completely abstain because of the possibility of addiction, especially when alcohol is so popular.

Still Jack · 11-26-2009, 09:27 AM

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Solumina: Food addiction is something that runs in our family. So you basically blame me for how I was born? And now you blame me for trying to do something about it?
You are a fantastic person.

Being a heartless cunt runs in my family, would you forgive me if I stole a one legged mans false leg?

Methadrine · 11-26-2009, 10:00 AM

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Fair point, but nobody forced the drug addict to take drugs.

No, but you got the mental game there too. Either you got enough self-dicipline to use the drugs recreationally, and thereby stop whenever you want, or you don't and get addicted. The addicted then has the choice to go to rehab or further fuck him or herself severely up.

Malice In Wonderland · 11-26-2009, 10:01 AM

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Being a heartless cunt runs in my family, would you forgive me if I stole a one legged mans false leg?

I'd laugh...

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Holy shit Solumina, I think you broke him.

GO SOL! GO SOL!

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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Shu'up, fatty.

Anarasha · 11-26-2009, 10:02 AM

My only point is that it's not easy for me.
I know it's all mental, and I am working on it the best I can.
And yes, it is my own fault, of course it is.
That doesn't mean I'm not trying though.

Tam Li Hua · 11-26-2009, 10:08 AM

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Yeah, and I blame drug addicts as much as I do food addicts when they fuck themselves up. Nobody shoved food down his throat, he should have intervened earlier, a lot earlier.

If the drug addict was currently going through a detox program, would you still go and tell him what a dumbass he is, and that he should try getting off drugs?

Don't you see how that's ridiculous and counter-productive?

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Also, he's not trying, he's making excuses, like not going to the gym because he needs to buy presents, and is waiting to get a gastric bypass. That's not trying, that's the easy way out.

Dude, he just said that he's doing a BUNCH of stuff to lose weight. Gastric bypass is no small surgery, and it isn't done as soon as you walk into the doctor's office. :/

Honestly, I think you're just being a bitch for whatever reason; you don't -have- to reply to him, ya know. In fact, the best way to ignore someone is to...you know...ignore them.

It's the Internet; you don't HAVE to reply to him, or even read anything he has to say. No one's holding a gun to your head and MAKING you be a bitch. You're just being that way out of pure cruelty.

Lay off the kid, seriously; it doesn't do any good to chew someone out, except to inflate your own insecure ego.

Tam Li Hua · 11-26-2009, 10:09 AM

About mental/emotional addictions: They're still addictions. I tried for 27 years to try and convince my mom to put down the bottle and go into rehab for the sake of her family. She didn't. She eventually died from the addiction.

Obviously, none of you have ever had someone close to you with a serious addiction, and have never dealt with it yourself. But hey, let's try an experiment: If it's really so easy to kick a habit, then I challenge each of you to stop being such assholes, and just not post anything to people you obviously don't like. [Hint: The LESS you post to the people you don't like, the SOONER they'll actually stop posting. This is the ONLY forum site I've been on where the members just don't seem to get this simple piece of logic.]

If you can't stop posting cruel comments to the folks you hate, then you're no better than the ones you're putting down.

[God, this site is just absolutely awful.]

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Being a heartless cunt runs in my family, would you forgive me if I stole a one legged mans false leg?

Well, that explains why you're such an asshole, I guess.

Methadrine · 11-26-2009, 10:11 AM

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It's the Internet; you don't HAVE to reply to him, or even read anything he has to say. No one's holding a gun to your head and MAKING you be a bitch. You're just being that way out of pure cruelty.

Uhm, yes it's the internet. The place where most people fight over ridiculous things. It's unavoidable.

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Lay off the kid, seriously; it doesn't do any good to chew someone out, except to inflate your own insecure ego.

..although I agree with you here. Taunting someone because they're fat is too easy, and pretty low. Breaking down people mentally so they learn to have some guts (pun intended) is more elegant.

Tam Li Hua · 11-26-2009, 10:17 AM

Methadrine: *sigh* I know I know; and I've obviously been guilty of it myself. I guess I just don't understand why it seems so much worse and more vicious here than anywhere else, or why folks here seem to think that putting down others somehow makes them better people.

Not even the other Goth sites are as mean about stupid [and not so stupid] junk as folks here are, so why is it like that here? I just don't understand.

Malice In Wonderland · 11-26-2009, 10:21 AM

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About mental/emotional addictions: They're still addictions. I tried for 27 years to try and convince my mom to put down the bottle and go into rehab for the sake of her family. She didn't. She eventually died from the addiction.

Alcoholism's not really a mental addiction Tam...

Anarasha · 11-26-2009, 10:23 AM

Technically, food addiction isn't either. Yes, a big part of it is mental, that much is true. But I read somewhere that eating stimulates the same part of the brain as drugs do when you are addicted to food.
Not that it's an excuse, I just thought you might want to get your facts straight.

Tam Li Hua · 11-26-2009, 10:27 AM

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Alcoholism's not really a mental addiction Tam...

You're right; it's physical, emotional, AND mental.

But, you know what? SO IS FOOD ADDICTION.

An addiction is an addiction. It doesn't matter what you're addicted to, it can be just as damaging. A food addict can no more "just put down a fork and walk away" than an alcoholic can "just put down a bottle and walk away."

It's not a fun fact of life, and I honestly wish it really were that easy....but it's not. These things take time, a LOT of work on the addict's part, and a great deal of support from loved ones to overcome; it doesn't just stop overnight. [I don't get why this is such a difficult concept for you people to understand. SURELY I'm not the other one who's had a loved one with a serious addiction here..?]

So lay off the kid already. He doesn't deserve your ridicule any more than you deserve ridicule for wearing Goth clothes or listening to the Bauhaus or whatever the crap it is you do..

JCC · 11-26-2009, 10:27 AM

I weigh less now than I did when I was 11. I didn't do it through a gastric bypass or a private fucking trainer, and I wasn't suffering from food 'addiction': I was a fat asshole who stuffed his face all day so I went on a diet. It's not exactly a fucking mystery, Anarasha, and stop making excuses. You say you're dieting, but then you say that you drink smoothies. You're just dieting wrong.

Tam Li Hua · 11-26-2009, 10:31 AM

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Tam is still a moron of monumental proportions, people are still dickslapping her, and people are being flamed nonstop. All is well with the world...

Yeah, you're right; I'm such a fucking dumbass bitch for fighting ignorance and stupidity.

How dare I stand up for what I believe in. I'm such a fucking tool, huh?

You're SUCH a dumbass.

Tam Li Hua · 11-26-2009, 10:32 AM

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I weigh less now than I did when I was 11. I didn't do it through a gastric bypass or a private fucking trainer, and I wasn't suffering from food 'addiction': I was a fat asshole who stuffed his face all day so I went on a diet. It's not exactly a fucking mystery, Anarasha, and stop making excuses. You say you're dieting, but then you say that you drink smoothies. You're just dieting wrong.

So you don't have an addiction. Great.

Would you say these same things to someone you love who actually does?

JCC · 11-26-2009, 10:44 AM

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So you don't have an addiction. Great.

Would you say these same things to someone you love who actually does?

Great job on missing my fucking point, Tam. If my post implied that I was morbidly obese throughout my childhood and into my teens, do you really think I was just saying "I was a bit chubby once" and don't understand Anarasha's situation? His 'food addiction' is an excuse, the fact that it 'runs through the family' simply means that he has an issue with food because of his family environment and needs to get over that shit, and this gastric band operation is just pissing in the wind when the real issue is that the guy needs to get his goddamn head straight.

Malice In Wonderland · 11-26-2009, 11:01 AM

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Solumina: Food addiction is something that runs in our family. So you basically blame me for how I was born? And now you blame me for trying to do something about it?
You are a fantastic person.

Being sectioned seems to run in the male side of my family.
I haven't been sectioned.
And I'm not going to be.

Anarasha · 11-26-2009, 11:08 AM

JCC - All flamings and horrible defenses aside, do you honestly believe that I am not trying?

JCC · 11-26-2009, 11:09 AM

What are you doing?

Still Jack · 11-26-2009, 11:37 AM

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Yeah, you're right; I'm such a fucking dumbass bitch for fighting ignorance and stupidity.

How dare I stand up for what I believe in. I'm such a fucking tool, huh?

You're SUCH a dumbass.

I thought you'd put me on ignore. And thus the fight continues.

Anarasha · 11-26-2009, 11:53 AM

JCC - The things that have been mentioned, I am starting the gym at January, gonna work out 3 times a week. I have revitalized how I eat so I do not eat nearly as much, and I am still in that process, I am gonna get some pills to help me with that process, the gaustric bypass operation, I am gonna see if I can start at a psychologist to help me with my food addiction, I am queued to see a food specialist so I can actually learn what to eat. All these things are pending.
As for what I am doing right now, I have started eating salad and some healthy stuff, I am not nearly there yet though.
I try to get out when I can muster up the energy (being this heavy, it is not always I have energy to do anything at all, but I do when I can)
I keep reminding myself just how annoying it is to be heavy by looking at slim people.
Other than that, I have just started a food diary so I can look back on what I actually ate during a day and think what I can do better.
It is not enough, but I would call it baby steps and a starting effort.