Communism?

[Binkie]

That's right. Didn't everyone get the memo? You can't be fiscally conservative, for small government, and be a goth at the same time. The gothic subculture isn't about diversity or acceptance of others, it's about socialist ideals.

Oh no, wait, that's Socialism. You're on the wrong forums, Sternn.

[HumanePain]

Originally Posted by Vako

It's interesting about this site. There are people on this site from all around the spiritual and political spectrum. There's a Communist, a National Socialist, some Capitalists, I believe someone mentioned that they are a Christian, there's a Satanist on here, and someone mentioned that they're athiest or agnostic or something.

And we all like Goth! Fascinating, and very intriguing.

::holds up hand waving::

I'm the Christian, Capitalist Grandpa Goth here. Just to round out the spectrum. Siouxsie and Rozz RULE us all!

:: puts on gas mask and starts headbanging::

[ArtificialOne]

What pile of shit did stern come out of?

I mean, to be goth you have to be an extreme leftist american hating fat bastard such as stern.

Who the hell is he to depict what it is to be goth?

Crawl back into the shit where you came from you pompous ass. And stop labeling people ungoth or notgoth from your own opinions. Last I heard you actually have no rank, you military wanna be. Post your DD214 if you're man enough. ANd before you google it, try to think of what it might be.

You are in no position to dub people goth or not. Just because you're a senior member or something doesn't mean shit. By your own attitude you put a label on yourself.

Ok, my batteries about to die so that's all you're getting tonight.

[Valerius]

Good on you, Artificial!

[Vako]

Originally Posted by HumanePain

::holds up hand waving::

I'm the Christian, Capitalist Grandpa Goth here. Just to round out the spectrum. Siouxsie and Rozz RULE us all!

:: puts on gas mask and starts headbanging::

Glad to make your acquaintance.

[republigoth]

I've been thinking. Maybe Sternn isn't even real. I mean, even trolls whoes only pleasure in life is to provoke a pointless reaction from anonymous people somewhere on the internet don't say shit that stupid.

I supose he could secretly be an ultraconservative who's mission is to defame and misrepresent the left.

But my theory is, now follow me here, he's a computer virus.

Think about it.

[ArtificialOne]

Actually I was thinking he was a shit Gollam. You know on that movie with jay and silent bob...lmao

[Valerius]

Whatever the fuck he is, I'd appreciate it if he just disappeared from Gnet.

[CptSternn]

Once again, you bitches need to move yer posts to 'whining' where there will, or won't be addressed.

[Binkie]

Aww... the troll is upset. Go ahead and cry about all the, "whining." That doesn't make you look stupid at all, especially since your initial post was one big brat attack.

[ArtificialOne]

Well Mrs Stern, I suggest you should have put this topic in whining to begin with.

But of course your true intensions always shine through.

[CptSternn]

Originally Posted by ArtificialOne

What pile of shit did stern come out of?

I mean, to be goth you have to be an extreme leftist american hating fat bastard such as stern.

Who the hell is he to depict what it is to be goth?

Well, since you asked...

http://revelations.darkangels.net/

Go there, check out the pictures. Even better - see the bands and artists I have worked with, booked, and toured with. The fact you have no idea who I am shows everyone that you really aren't in the goth scene.

I have worked with every major g/i label and almost every major artist you can think of. In fact, I still currently help book tours for major artists worldwide. Hell, I was working with many of the major bands before many even HAD a label.

I have opened for a cadre of the best artists out there. Slick Idiot/KMFDM, Pygmy Children, Iris, Alien Sex Fiend, Acumen Nation, Cubanate, Bella Morte, Voltaire, Haujobb, VNV Nation, The Cruxshadows - just to name a few. If you have been to a major venue for a major event in the late 90's or early 2000's then you have seen my work. You may have heard some of my mixes on various g/i compilations. I did some remixing for Apoptygma Berzerk a few years back that many have heard, and you can find on a few internet sites if you search.

It's safe to say if your listening to a g/i album right now, I have met, worked with, and know personally the artist. Don't believe me? Check my site/myspace/youtube. I have the photos and videos to prove it.

But hey, thats what I have done for the g/i scene. I hate to talk about myself, but you asked.

What about yerself? What makes you 'goth' other than the fact you showed up here a few months ago and started posting in this forum?

[republigoth]

Posting a reply assuring everyone that you're a total Scene Queen in no way neutralizes the fact that you are an arrogant asshole. It just means that you are also desperate for legitimacy.

If you had licked the mud from the boots after blowing of every member of KMFDM, you would still be a dipshit. Name dropping to make yourself look cool is pathetic, my fascist friend.

If you want to counteract the accusation, try providing an example of you NOT being a ignorant judgmental fascist asshole.

[ArtificialOne]

Amen! sister, Amen!

He completely proved my point.

He did just what kids do when they are trying to prove themselves and show off to their friends how "core" they are.

Ever think that if you didn't act all mighty and Queen Gothi no one would question your gothiness? Or even give a rat turd?

I am what I am. I don't need validation from anyone stern. Being confident and assured of yourself means you need not look to anyone for vindicating how you feel or what you want to be.

Just because your X numbers of years old or have done X numbers of things don't prove shit to me until you prove yourself in person.

You're just a child stern, no matter what you do. Go back and sit at the kids table of life and let us grown ups handle the important business.

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

Well, since you asked...

http://revelations.darkangels.net/

Go there, check out the pictures. Even better - see the bands and artists I have worked with, booked, and toured with. The fact you have no idea who I am shows everyone that you really aren't in the goth scene.

I have worked with every major g/i label and almost every major artist you can think of. In fact, I still currently help book tours for major artists worldwide. Hell, I was working with many of the major bands before many even HAD a label.

I have opened for a cadre of the best artists out there. Slick Idiot/KMFDM, Pygmy Children, Iris, Alien Sex Fiend, Acumen Nation, Cubanate, Bella Morte, Voltaire, Haujobb, VNV Nation, The Cruxshadows - just to name a few. If you have been to a major venue for a major event in the late 90's or early 2000's then you have seen my work. You may have heard some of my mixes on various g/i compilations. I did some remixing for Apoptygma Berzerk a few years back that many have heard, and you can find on a few internet sites if you search.

It's safe to say if your listening to a g/i album right now, I have met, worked with, and know personally the artist. Don't believe me? Check my site/myspace/youtube. I have the photos and videos to prove it.

But hey, thats what I have done for the g/i scene. I hate to talk about myself, but you asked.

What about yerself? What makes you 'goth' other than the fact you showed up here a few months ago and started posting in this forum?

Oh, gee. Wow. Oh, shizzle. I didn't know you were such an ass-kisser madame sternn. I was ready to give you much respect if you'd only stuck to what was being discussed about China and communism by and large, but now you show the world how much of a brown-noser you are. Seriously, what does your work, and your being a Scene Queen have to do with the original topic?

Are you some kind of pseudocommunofascist? How long ago was it when Drake, Artificial and republigoth just trounced your ass in the debate regarding communism? Goths are intellectual, but you're not, so it seems someone around here really doesn't qualify, and it isn't us.

Cruxshadows, VNV Nation, Front 242, Razed in Black. Pulling these names out of your ass doesn't mean shit. Do I see the name sternn anywhere? No. Am I listening to an original by sternn? Not really. You failed.

Working with these groups doesn't mean jack shit until you've validated yourself as a person, which you have so far failed to do. Give it up sternn, go away. You're only digging a deeper hole for yourself in the eyes of people who are following this thread.

Anyway, I've given up trying to be civil with you. I realize now it's useless to be reasonable with a moron.

[CptSternn]

Hah. Obviously the lot of ye don't visit yer own local venues much. The scene is quite fickle, and above all else, is all about pretentious people like myself. If yer not familiar with your local venue, the clichés, and all the great drama that's associated with the scene, well then, you have never been apart of it.

If you are offended, good. If you don't understand, then it means well, your not part of the scene, but hey - thanks for playing. Go crawl back into your corner with the other blow-ins so the rest of us can continue to laugh at you from a distance.

[republigoth]

Oh wow! You're soooo cool, sternn! If only god had loved me enough to make me more like you Man, why can't I just be cool like you? I think I'm going to go cry because I'm so offensivly uncool compared to your overwhelming awesomeness.

Really, don't even bother to read this. You're way too awesome to read my post.

Jesus Christ, what are you? A 15 year old cheerleader?

[Binkie]

I thought maybe he secretly suffered from Werner syndrome. Body grows rapidly to look like a 33 year old, but the kid is really just 12. I guess that's just the way he really is.

Kinda pathetic for an adult to still be fixated upon this stuff. Some 45 years olds still sleep with teddy bears - Sternn still thinks he's Peter Pan.

"I'll never grow up! I'll be a child forever!"

[ArtificialOne]

Ok.. If you guys get that Toys "R" Us song in my head... there's going to be trouble... Robot trouble...lol

[Binkie]

Don't worry, Artificial. As long as you don't click on THIS LINK, you're fine.

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

The scene is quite fickle, and above all else, is all about pretentious people like myself.

If you're so pretentious as you say, at least live up to what you're trying to front. So far you've been schooled by at least five people who qualify more as 'goth' than you'll ever be, so I think it is you who should be running away with his tail between his legs.

Judging by what you're saying, you've surrounded yourself with poseurs and wannabes instead of true intellectual goths. So, let me ask you, what kind of shit-hole of a scene do you exactly hail from? If it's so 'pretentious' and 'fickle' as you say then it's lost the real spirit of goth which is tolerance, intellectualism, decadence and creativity among other things.

Open your eyes, sternn, and see how many people exactly have artfully countered every single thing you've said, and made you look more of the dumb shit you really are. Take your head out from inside your ass and smell the coffee. You're obviously on the wrong side of things here.

Watch what you say with that forked tongue of yours, sternn, because it's just digging you a deeper hole to get to hell with.

[Lykaios]

Originally Posted by ArtificialOne

I'm tired of hearing "equal rights" and all the crap they are pushing in the schools,the no testing to move to the next grades and crap. These kids when they graduate are going to fail miserably. Anyone in our country has a chance to get ahead in life.

I realize this thread has turned more into a game of "Attack The Troll", but I'm going to make my little comment on this nonetheless.

I don't blame socialism. In my opinion, that is a product of the capitalistic country that we are so unlucky to live in. By keeping "these kids" uneducated, and simply preparing them for their place in the work place, it's keeping the ruling class rather happy. I truly feel sorry for those that do not value their education as much as they should. As cliche as I may sound for saying this, knowledge is power.

[Valerius]

Originally Posted by Lykaios

I realize this thread has turned more into a game of "Attack The Troll", but I'm going to make my little comment on this nonetheless.

I don't blame socialism. In my opinion, that is a product of the capitalistic country that we are so unlucky to live in. By keeping "these kids" uneducated, and simply preparing them for their place in the work place, it's keeping the ruling class rather happy. I truly feel sorry for those that do not value their education as much as they should. As cliche as I may sound for saying this, knowledge is power.

Your input is valued, but you can blame madame sternn for ruining this thread by being the dumbest shit on this whole forum by straying from the topic and resorting to showing off his oh-so-scene-queeniness just to save his face from certain destruction.

And let me add for effect, sternn, and remember this. No-one - not anyone - has to be in your definition of scene to qualify as goth. If you're so narrowminded as to disqualify those not attending this 'scene' of yours to qualify as goth then you're just a bigot masquerading as a goth. Let me emphasize the word bigot for you just so it'll get through that thick neanderthall skull of yours.

Bigot, sternn. You're a bigot.

[Vako]

Commzuznizzzm is L33t... !!!1!1!

[CptSternn]

Originally Posted by Valerius

If you're so pretentious as you say, at least live up to what you're trying to front. So far you've been schooled by at least five people who qualify more as 'goth' than you'll ever be, so I think it is you who should be running away with his tail between his legs.

Really? Who? People who you not only don't know and never met you deem more 'goth'? Coming from a person in manilla, thats rich. Good scene down there, eh? Funny, never saw a manilla club listed on the VICL.

Judging by what you're saying, you've surrounded yourself with poseurs and wannabes instead of true intellectual goths. So, let me ask you, what kind of shit-hole of a scene do you exactly hail from? If it's so 'pretentious' and 'fickle' as you say then it's lost the real spirit of goth which is tolerance, intellectualism, decadence and creativity among other things.

Are are thick. You REALLY have never been to a real club have you? Oh yeah, your underage, meaning you haven't.

Also, if you visited the said links earlier, you would have seen the venues I run, book for, and do tours for. You wouldn't be asking, again, in this post.

But I do love it when a pre-teen wanna be blow-in trys to act smart. Emphasis on the word 'act'.